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Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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We need good referees. Hang on to that Kerr Barlow #2.

Currently our best referee is a reject Kiwi that has been given a second chance (and thrived) in Oz. I have met Steve and apart from being from over there I have no issue with him. The fact that he is no longer over there, and is over here, suggests that he has an astute decision making process.

However, for credibility, we need more of our home grown referees on the international stage at the top level.
 
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T.Rugby

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Did I hear with one ear on the news that Will Chambers is joining the Cheiktahs or was I listening with only half an ear?

yeah, he was briefly interviewed the other night on the news where he said that he wanted to join the waratahs but "they signed rob horne on such a long deal"
 

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Arch Winning (36)
I know him personally and he will never be a Wallaby. Since he was little his dream was always to be an AB. He went to boarding school in NZ to follow that dream and his Mum's family is from the Waikato region. He played his rugby for the Palmerston crocs (Darwin) and came up through our juniors. If Australian Rugby wants a recruit from the Kerr-Barlow family it is his younger brother they should be looking at. He plays socially but he is also a referee and he a damn good one at that. I wish they would develop him as he has what it takes to move up to bigger things.

It is correct that his Mum was a Wallaroo.

bit disapointing that his lived here for the majority of his life but would rather play for another country
 

Eyes and Ears

Bob Davidson (42)
There was Dewet Roos who had to go overseas to get a gig. But I agree on Lucas' contract, he's an excellent talent especially on EPS.

Is anyone else like me and not understand the ratings on Dewet Roos? IMO he is only just First Grade standard and would be too small for elite rugby. Surely if Souths thought he was that good, they wouldn't have signed Grayson Hart as well.
 

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Arch Winning (36)
Is anyone else like me and not understand the ratings on Dewet Roos? IMO he is only just First Grade standard and would be too small for elite rugby. Surely if Souths thought he was that good, they wouldn't have signed Grayson Hart as well.

too small for elite rugby? probably for week in week out super rugby but other pro comps or as just a esp for s15 he would be fine. Only just first grade standard? definatly not. Having played both rugby and oztag with him he has a great range of ball skills and is one of the best leaders on the field i have seen. His the incumbent sydney half, and i struggle to think of any non-signed SS halfs who are better. As to Grayson if theres a opportunity to sign a fringe super rugby player most clubs would jump at the opportunity if they have the money regardless of who they already have
 

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David Codey (61)
Picking the best U20s 9 for the EPS slot is not a dumb approach.

Wessells (aus schools last year?) maybe an up and comer but he didn't play much this year.

No shortage in the SS? mmm, which young up and comer would you rate higher?
Why does an EPS squad have to include a 9?
It's cover for the cover.
Apart from Wessels, Uni and Woods have capable replacements, the Rats have 2 ATM.Not all youngsters, but as I said it's cover for the cover.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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It's cover for a guy who is in the matchday 22 every single game.

Your third choice halfback is going to be in the matchday 22 whenever one of the two halfbacks above them is injured. Surely that is a strong argument that the player should be contracted and training with the side on a fulltime basis.

Arguably, players 23-35 in the squad (main squad and EPS) are cover for someone on the bench.

Halfback is a specialist role. In the same way that you're always going to have three hookers amongst your 35, you're going to have three halfbacks.
 
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allenwalker

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they really need to get the young boys in the squad ! im sure waratahs knows that there backline is not working! need players that want to do the job ! you got the young southern district player ! rohan saifoloi , ben volavola and apo latunipulu! they look much more better than the past 2 season backline ! or moses tavola or yakapo from paramatta ? need a good fresh backline !
 

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Bob Davidson (42)
they really need to get the young boys in the squad ! im sure waratahs knows that there backline is not working! need players that want to do the job ! you got the young southern district player ! rohan saifoloi , ben volavola and apo latunipulu! they look much more better than the past 2 season backline ! or moses tavola or yakapo from paramatta ? need a good fresh backline !
They are great young players but they are not super rugby ready yet.
 

KevinO

Geoff Shaw (53)
On such a good roll from Bruce, too. I'm sure we can forgive him one geographical "knock on".

It is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Team UK as some call it - AKA Team "Uck"

The Irish in "British and Irish Lions" refers to natives from Northern Ireland and Eire, ie people from the island of Ireland.

The British and Irish Lions was called the British Isles, which is the name of the area of the UK and Ireland before Ireland became independent. The name would have changed after Ireland's Independence and would not want to be known as British anymore.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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The British and Irish Lions was called the British Isles, which is the name of the area of the UK and Ireland before Ireland became independent. The name would have changed after Ireland's Independence and would not want to be known as British anymore.

Little wonder that they have had "issues" with what to call the large bit of dirt to the west of Scotland and Wales, and who is to be in charge of the place for several hundred years.:)
 

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Larry Dwyer (12)
NSW Waratahs a chance to lure Irish superstar Brian O'Driscoll to Super Rugby
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Ireland's captain Brian O'Driscoll is eyeing a possible move to the Waratahs. Source: The Daily Telegraph
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Brian O'Driscoll is confident ahead of the 2013 British and Irish Lions tour of Australia. Source: The Daily Telegraph
IRISH superstar Brian O'Driscoll says he would consider playing a season for the Waratahs under former coach Michael Cheika.
O'Driscoll has long harboured an ambition to play Super Rugby, and explored the possibility as recently as last year.
The appointment of Cheika as NSW coach - who O'Driscoll admires after five years together at Leinster - has opened a door for the British and Irish Lions centre to become a marquee signing on par with the Waratahs' new neighbour Alessandro Del Pierro.
O'Driscoll told The Daily Telegraph while family logistics of a season in Sydney in 2014 might prove difficult, he still views Super Rugby as a tempting challenge and would be happy to discuss it with Cheika.
"What excites me is the challenge of playing against the calibre of player you are playing week-in, week-out down there,'' O'Driscoll said.


"That is an exciting prospect. But whether all the pieces fit, I don't know. At this moment in time, probably not but 'Cheiks' has my number, so if he wants to give me a call, he knows how to get me.''
In an extensive interview, O'Driscoll opened up on why he thinks Cheika will be a success at the Waratahs; the growing hype and confidence about the 2013 British and Irish Lions tour of Australia, and reflected on the Lions tour of 2001 - and why the northerners will expect another feisty tour match against NSW.
WARATAHS MOVE
As an attacking centre, O'Driscoll has eyed Super Rugby for years and went as far as making "minor inquries'' last year about making it happen.
"Just before the World Cup I thought about the possibility of last year maybe taking a little bit of downtime after the World Cup, and playing a year of Super Rugby,'' O'Driscoll said.
"The three best teams in the world make up the Super 15, and you look at the individuals and you look at the calibre of sides and the quality of Super Rugby and the intensity of it, obviously it is a hugely high standard.
With his actress wife Amy Huberman filming TV shows in London, however, O'Driscoll re-signed with Leinster until mid-2013. The 33-year-old said "my time might have passed on that front but I definitely a never say never sort of person.''
"I am contracted only to June, so whether I play on for another year after that, the body will be able to tell me later on this year,'' he said.
Having seen the huge promotional success of Del Pierro and Emile Heskey for the A-League the Waratahs would be mad not to pursue O'Driscoll to help lift rugby's flagging profile in NSW.
Cheika was cagey on the possibility but said his former charge would be a success in Super Rugby.
"O'Driscoll is a class act both on and off the field and I'm sure we'll see that class from him during the Lions tour next year,'' he told The Daily Telegraph via email from Paris.
"Brian is a Leinster man through and through. Sydney is a long way from Dublin, so I'd say the only chance of him playing Super Rugby is if we kidnap him during our tour match against the Lions next June.
"I will say though he is one northern hemisphere player who I am sure would be able to be a dominant figure in the southern hemisphere tournament.''

Michael Cheika
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Brian O'Driscoll rates new NSW Waratahs coach Michael Cheika highly. Picture: Gregg Porteous Source: The Daily Telegraph

COACH CHEIKA
O'Driscoll played under Cheika at Leinster from 2005 to 2009, and credits him with a "massive role in instigating the rise of Leinster Rugby''.
The underperforming province won its first Heineken Cup in 2008-09, and though Cheika had left, won another in May this year.
"He put a huge amount of structures in place and I would think structure at the Waratahs is probably pretty good anyway, but he will tweak things the way he has done in the past with ourselves. He is a very effective coach if he gets the right people around him, as well. I think he'll do a great job."
Cheika is an extremely effective communicator, said O'Driscoll. "One thing I would say about him, which I think is one of his strengths, is that I never bored of any team talk that he gave the side. That's a huge strength.
"It is difficult when you are with a team for five years, to try and come up with new material. But in fairness to him it was always insightful and targeted in the right way.''
2013 LIONS TOUR
O'Driscoll has been identified as one of the leading candidates to captain the British and Irish Lions on tour here next year - his fourth Lions tour.
A superstitious type, O'Driscoll doesn't like discussing his personal chances - "it's eight months away, that's an eternity in rugby'' - but says the hype is already huge.
"Things are so different from 12 years ago, when you look at the likes of things like social networking and Twitter. The Lions people have been a big push recently of trying to build that hype,'' he said.
Australia's recent results and the improvements of the northern hemisphere sides has given Lions fans plenty of confidence the north-south gap is now closed, but O'Driscoll is wary of writing off the Wallabies.
"Wales lost three zip in the Test series but all three games were very close. So you add in the best of England, Scotland and Ireland on top of that, and you could say it is a fairly mouth-watering prospect what the Test series is going to turn up,'' he said.
"But Australia have a great ability of building themselves up for big moments. They'd be slightly disappointed from the last World Cup, but that's pretty unusual for them.
"They mightn't be at their very best at the moment but Robbie Deans will have them ready to go for a big, big tour next summer.''
2001 LIONS TOUR
Outside the Test series, one of the big matches in the Lions 10-match tour will be the clash with the Waratahs on June 15; one week out from the first Test in Brisbane.
The infamous clash between NSW and the Lions remains "a standout memory'' from the 2001 tour, said O'Driscoll, who was part of a Test-strength Lions line-up.
The match was bitterly fought; quite literally. Five yellow cards were handed out, and Duncan McRae got red-carded for assaulting Ronan O'Gara on the ground with a flurry of unanswered punches.
"If the memories of the last one is anything to go by, it will certainly be interesting,'' O'Driscoll said. "We certainly didn't have it easy. They set their stall out early, and the referee, his cards were hot that night.''
Graham Henry said recently in his autobiography Australia's provinces set out to bash the Lions in 2001, and slammed Australian sportsmanship.
O'Driscoll stopped short of endorsing that view, but said the Lions will expect a similarly brutal clash with NSW in 2013.
"There was definitely something more than just a competitive game of rugby, particularly in that NSW match,'' he said.
"There was no doubt they were out to send a message out. I'm not necessarily saying rough up but they went out with a physical purpose about them, which as the referee's number of cards indicated, was stepping over the line on a few occasions,
"I wouldn't imagine when the Lions go to play the Waratahs next year, they'll be thinking that it will be a nice, friendly match. I am sure they'll be expecting the worst.''
DUNCAN MCRAE
O'Driscoll said McRae's bashing of O'Gara was "one of those horrible situations'' that left regret on both sides, with his Irish mate missing a Test berth a week later due to his injury and McRae being labelled a thug.
"But I will say that I did laugh to myself the following year (in 2002) when McRae was with Gloucester, and they went to play Munster (O'Gara's team) in Thomond Park,'' O'Driscoll said.
"The final whistle had barely touched the referee's lips and Duncan McRae, I have never seen a man run off the pitch so quickly. It was probably in his best interests because they're fairly tribal down there. I wouldn't say there were a huge amount of autographs that day.''
KIWI LIONS
Warren Gatland's appointment as Lions coach is a good one, feels O'Driscoll, particularly after his experience as an assistant in South Africa in 2009.
"Warren likes teams to go out and play. Wales have pretty much the belief and the mindset to go out and play heads-up rugby,'' he said.
The last Kiwi to lead the Lions was Henry in 2001, whose style led to a divided squad; some like Austin Healey and Matt Dawson even openly critical.
"From Graham's point of view, looking back on that tour, 11 years ago now professionalism was only six years old at that stage and it is such a vastly different game in every dimension now,'' O'Driscoll said.
"We trained crazy hours on that tour, when you look back. Double-pitch sessions a lot of days, and you could be out there for two hours a pop. All of that has changed and there is a realisation you have to try and keep intensity in training, but time on feet needs to be tapered off towards the end of the week.''
WALLABIES SPRING TOUR
The wounded Wallabies will play England and Wales on their Spring Tour next month, and a victory or two could help the Lions rub more of the aura away from Australia prior to their tour.
O'Driscoll agrees, but only in part.
"I think what it would do for those individuals that found themselves on the tour, they'd know what its like to beat Australia,'' he said.
"I don't think you can read in too much, because November is a good distance to June and July.''
* Brian O’Driscoll is an ambassador for HSBC. HSBC is the Principal Partner for the British & Irish Lions Tour to Australia 2013.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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No matter how good he is at whatever age he would be, it would be to the benefit of B&I Lions, who are coming down under to get whipped. We should not do anything in the slightest to assist them in their endeavours.

While it may be good for the Waratahs and I would love to see BOD running around for the Tahs, would this possible signing be in the best interests of the Men in Gold?
 
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TOCC

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I like the idea of marquee players, BOD around the age of 27-30 could have contributed significantly to any Australian Super Rugby side which could have also flowed over to the national side with the knowledge and non southern hemisphere rugby mindset he could bring to the side.

I still think Daniel Braid is the best 'marquee' player any australian side has signed, his contribution in a position which we lacked depth and the experience he brought to the Reds was a big boost at the time. David Smith probably runs a close second in his contribution out West....

I havent really factored in the Melbourne Rebels crew since half the team is a foreign player.
 
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