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fatprop

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Gagger said:
He's the CHAIRMAN of a public company in the middle of a boardroom shiftight - which has included boning their CEO.

You equate that with seats on a few advisories?
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that was just an easy example to find, they all do a shit load of extras working long hours getting stuff done.

equate exactly? no, but the premise stands, the question comes down to can he fit it in and is doe his chairman so ti is affecting his performance? others in his position just do (I have no idea how they do it, but they just do)

Have a look at JON's boss

Michael J Hawker AM
BSc (Sydney), FAICD, FAIM, SF Fin

Independent Voting Director since March 2010 (of Macquarie Bank since March 2010)
Member of the Board Audit Committee
Member of the Board Risk Committee
Member of the Board Governance and Compliance Committee
Michael Hawker was Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director of Insurance Australia Group from 2001 to 2008. From 1995 to 2001, Mr Hawker held a range of positions at Westpac, including Group Executive of Business and Consumer Banking and General Manager of Financial Markets. Prior to this, he held a number of positions at Citibank, including Deputy Managing Director for Australia and subsequently Executive Director, Head of Derivatives, Europe. Currently, Mr Hawker is Chairman of the George Institute for Global Health, a member of the George Institute for Global Health (UK) and a Director of Aviva Plc Group, the largest insurance provider in the UK. He is also Chairman of Australian Rugby Union and SANZAR (South African, New Zealand and Australian Rugby). Mr Hawker is a member of the International Rugby Board Council, the Executive Committee of the International Rugby Board, the Advisory Board to GEMS, a Hong Kong based private equity firm, and of the board of trustees of the Giant Steps Foundation. He was previously President of the Insurance Council of Australia, Chairman of the Australian Financial Markets Association, a board member of the Geneva Association and a member of the Financial Sector Advisory Council. Mr Hawker is additionally the founder of the Australian Business in the Community Network.
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Scotty

Scotty

David Codey (61)
fatprop said:
that was just an easy example to find, they all do a shit load of extras working long hours getting stuff done.

equate exactly? no, but the premise stands, the question comes down to can he fit it in and is doe his chairman so ti is affecting his performance? others in his position just do (I have no idea how they do it, but they just do)

Have a look at JON's boss
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Most Additional positions that CEOs hold dovetail with their main duties and help them network, control the industry and gain a greater standing at the big end of town. I can't see how the ARU relates to casinos.

PS where does it say that Hawker is a current CEO?
 
Bruce Ross

Bruce Ross

Ken Catchpole (46)
I'm struggling to see the relevance of your example, fp. What I'm reading is that he hasn't been a CEO for the past 11 years. Would IAG have been relaxed about him filling a similar after-work role to that which he presumably approved for the ARU's CEO?
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fatprop

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Bruce Ross said:
I'm struggling to see the relevance of your example, fp. What I'm reading is that he hasn't been a CEO for the past 11 years. Would IAG have been relaxed about him filling a similar after-work role to that which he presumably approved for the ARU's CEO?
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dunno mate, it was more another example of the busy lives these guys live, all these things are relative, but I am sure if Hawker thought it was an issue, as chairman he would sort it.
 
Bruce Ross

Bruce Ross

Ken Catchpole (46)
Scotty said:
Most Additional positions that CEOs hold dovetail with their main duties and help them network, control the industry and gain a greater standing at the big end of town. I can't see how the ARU relates to casinos.
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A spot of lateral thinking is called for here, Scotty. During the O'Neill-Deans era the winning of Tests by the Wallabies has become a real game of chance, with the exception of course of Trans-Tasman Tests where the results are eminently predictable.
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fatprop

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Scotty said:
Most Additional positions that CEOs hold dovetail with their main duties and help them network, control the industry and gain a greater standing at the big end of town. I can't see how the ARU relates to casinos.

PS where does it say that Hawker is a current CEO?
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both are supposedly in the entertainment business
 
Bruce Ross

Bruce Ross

Ken Catchpole (46)
fatprop said:
dunno mate, it was more another example of the busy lives these guys live, all these things are relative, but I am sure if Hawker thought it was an issue, as chairman he would sort it.
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Point taken, fp. Who are we to question the wisdom of our betters, particularly someone who needs 18 lines just to list his positions held?
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ACT Crusader

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Jim Lenehan (48)
From what i understand dual senior position holdings aren't out of the ordinary in US sports. For instance the Dallas Mavs CEO and President, Ussery, is also on the Board of the WNBA. Same industry but very different in terms of the role, the size of the market they operate in. Both demanding roles.
 
Hugh Jarse

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Sydney Lord Mayor Clover Moore was doing OK as the Member for Bligh in addition to her Mayoral duties. So well in fact that the State Government needed to pass the Anti-Clover Moore Bill to prevent this happening.

That she was able to successfully do both jobs previously does not say a lot about previous full time Lord Mayors, or current full time Lower House Members.
 
ACT Crusader

ACT Crusader

Jim Lenehan (48)
Hugh Jarse said:
Sydney Lord Mayor Clover Moore was doing OK as the Member for Bligh in addition to her Mayoral duties. So well in fact that the State Government needed to pass the Anti-Clover Moore Bill to prevent this happening.

That she was able to successfully do both jobs previously does not say a lot about previous full time Lord Mayors, or current full time Lower House Members.
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NSW Politicians work???
 
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TOCC

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Blame the ARU board for allowing such latitude in his initial contract...well done to JON for maximizing his income
 
waratahjesus

waratahjesus

Greg Davis (50)
Well I have to apologies for defending JON. The Echo job is clearly taking to much time, just found out it has caused him to fly to south Africa for the test match and a week of meetings with the IRB. He should be sacked, f'n casinos.
 
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waratahjesus said:
Well I have to apologies for defending JON. The Echo job is clearly taking to much time, just found out it has caused him to fly to south Africa for the test match and a week of meetings with the IRB. He should be sacked, f'n casinos.
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Will you be attending as part of his cheer leader squad?
 
Gagger

Gagger

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
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A seat on a board where you lob in a few times a year for a meeting is one thing. You can see some benefits to the home organisation.

To be chairman of that board while the company is re-structuring (including boning CEOs) and and in financial shit is another.

The defence of it in this thread is all broad brush-stroke stuff: "Other CEOs sit on boards, or have directorships" and "Busy people get more stuf done"

There's very important differences in detail between those roles you're quoting and what JON is doing for Echo. At this point in time it's nigh on two full time jobs - and that's not a good type of busy.

Up until last year I've been a defender of JON in situations like this, but for me the Man City revelations last year and now this situation show that there isn't an unwavering focus on re-invigorating Aussie rugby and dealing with its fundamental issues.

To me it looks like managing in decline just until something else happens (the Lions) and then exit (if not before if Man City had come off).
 
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