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Rugby Championship 2021

Dismal Pillock

Simon Poidevin (60)
FFS talk about B-grade fixture, they even wheeled out Waco Jaco for this one

Predictably scratchy AB effort, like a 1st preseason hit out. Forward passes and hungusry sees plenty of tries ruled out

DMac seems to barely know what's happening at 10.

No way Lavanini is only 28-years old. He's been playing for the Argies for 20 years and he looks at least 45.
 

Derpus

George Gregan (70)
FFS talk about B-grade fixture, they even wheeled out Waco Jaco for this one

Predictably scratchy AB effort, like a 1st preseason hit out. Forward passes and hungusry sees plenty of tries ruled out

DMac seems to barely know what's happening at 10.

No way Lavanini is only 28-years old. He's been playing for the Argies for 20 years and he looks at least 45.
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Pokinacha

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The Kiwi's get away with too much hands in ruck. Last 5min of the game, Argentina were looking dangerous and every time they came unstuck at the ruck with black hands disrupting and infringing with Jaco blind to it.
 

Dismal Pillock

Simon Poidevin (60)
Shoddy contractual obligation.

2nd half could barely conspire to get past halfway.

Ennor.

ENNOR.

WFT IS ENNOR.

Taukeiaho was GANGBUSTERS. Codie Taylor invisible in comparison

The FUCK was tenured quiffboy Brainfart Jordie doing "cleverly" running 5 metres past the mark before kicking it, right in front of the ref? Biffing the whole team back in the wood chipper on their own 5 that's what
 

Dan54

Tim Horan (67)
So the ABs have bagged the rugby championship with two games to play,
Impressive.
Yep tragic, but funnily enough in the world of NZR followers (well tv watchers that don't really go ot much rugby) they will still struggle to get credit. I think the coaching group is doing some good stuff, and actully getting a touch of depth.
Thought that Blackadder was bloody good last night, (but I like non stop players) though like DP has said at times he plays like he going to end up with a scrambled brain, he is fearless where he puts his head and body. Bloody good shift from young Vai'i, have to keep reminding myself he is only a 21yo kid, I suspect he may have a future as agood un. Scrum went pretty ok, thought TJP was good , and DMac went pretty ok at 10. Tupaea at 12 is a kid who keeps me pretty interested too, can see him getting a few tests.
Things went to custard a bit when reserves came on, and a large part of that was because I thought Christie really struggled. Also thought the Pumas, like the Boks looked pretty tired.
 

Jeffrey

Chris McKivat (8)
The ABs might have some questions to ask of themselves on selections heading to the WC.

1. Who is their top hookers? Samisoni and Asafo are extremely powerful, and I think the ABs need ball-carrying and raw power in their forward pack. In 2019, the only line-bender they had was Ardie Savea. However, both of the younger blokes are prone to being quite nervous at the line-out, which is absolutely key at the top tier of rugby. On the other hand, the veterans seem out of sort. Codie Taylor looks really flat at the moment - he was an aggressive, robust player in his youth with good speed. But he has mellowed and stagnated. Dane Coles does look good in patches, but he is35 and injury prone.

So who do the ABs pick for 2 and 16?

2. It seems pretty much locked-in that bar injury, 4 and 5 will be Retallick and Whitelock respectively. So who wears the 19 jersey?

For a long time, it seems like Scott Barrett was a certainty. He is a typical Crusader, neat, skillful, good basics, high work-rate. He added some bulk over time, but is still mobile enough to play 6. However he has proven prone to really stupid penalties. and he isn't very influential at line-out. Moreover, it comes back down to the balance. What sort of player does the AB need coming off the bench?

Patrick Tuipulotu is another that has now been in the team for some time. He's a big boy, and he needs to stay a big boy. At the start of his career, he was abrasive and good around the field. In 2014, when ABs won with a late Fekitoa try, Patrick and Charlie Faumuina were colossal off the bench, wrecking a maul, winning breakdowns, and smacking people which completely screwed up the Aussie gainline advantage. Soon after, he fell apart. We now know, as Patrick had explained several times, he tried to lose too much weight to fit into the AB template of speed and skill. In recent times, his weight has gone back up to 126-27kg. Which is good for him. He lends that heavy carrying in the close quarters. More importantly, he plays best when he is confident. Tupou Vai'i's introduction has actually done Patrick a lot of good, because Tupou has said he looks up to Patrick.

3. Who is the AB's best 8?
Ardie is probably too good not to start, but it's hard to say if 8 is really a good position for him. While his general play is excellent, some instincts do not come naturally, like dropping back for kicks, or the sort of control behind a moving scrum.

Hoskins Sotutu is obviously a skillful player. He is also excellent at the line-out, with a good natural jump and timing. He brings an excellent running game. But he lacks a robustness of international 8s, the brutality of Vermeleun or Alldrit.

Jacobsen seems to be a mix between the 2. He is part power and part pace. Crucially, there aren't that many tests left. I would like to see both Hoskins and Luke get another 15-20 tests under their belts, which means they have to be involved in the majority of tests leading up to WC 2023
 

Dan54

Tim Horan (67)
I think in answer to one of your questions, yep Scott barrett is a lock in with 19 jersey, for No 8 still think we will have Savea, think Sotutu will fight it out with Jacobson after '23 WC. Pretty confident Codie will be in 2 jersey, not sure who will have 16. Quite a few of the questions are pretty good quetions for a coach to have though.
 

waiopehu oldboy

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Aparently ABs can reclaim world #1 tonight.

The Points Exchange Calculator I use has SA 90.95 & NZ 90.69 but I guess we'll find out on Tuesday morning when WR (World Rugby) update the Official Rankings.

Anyway, as a few people are saying, we're not #1 again until we've beaten the current #1 which will hopefully take place in Townsville on Saturday.
 
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KOB1987

Rod McCall (65)
The Points Exchange Calculator I use has SA 90.95 & NZ 90.69 but I guess we'll find out on Tuesday morning when WR (World Rugby) update the Official Rankings.

Anyway, as a few people are saying, we're not #1 again until we've beaten the current #1 which will hopefully take place in Townsville on Saturday.
I’ve never known this one to be wrong

https://rawling.github.io/WR (World Rugby)-calc/
 

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KOB1987

Rod McCall (65)
Tick the No Home Advantage box......

Edit: way cooler calculator than my circa-2005 one so I'll be using it from now on.
Ah I see. I'm not sure if they are officially NHA though. If so you might have to wait a week and you have to win.

Yes it's a really good one, you can play around with hypotheticals etc.
 

waiopehu oldboy

Stirling Mortlock (74)
^ I'd much prefer we got back to #1 by beating them, albeit wth two huge assists from Wobs, than just by virtue of results going in our favour, something they'd never let us forget (like some of them still maintain the first two RWC's don't count 'cos they weren't there). So even if I'm wrong & we are currently #1 we still need to win in Townsville for it to count, somto speak.
 
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drewprint

Colin Windon (37)
Shoddy contractual obligation.

2nd half could barely conspire to get past halfway.

Ennor.

ENNOR.

WFT IS ENNOR.

Taukeiaho was GANGBUSTERS. Codie Taylor invisible in comparison

The FUCK was tenured quiffboy Brainfart Jordie doing "cleverly" running 5 metres past the mark before kicking it, right in front of the ref? Biffing the whole team back in the wood chipper on their own 5 that's what
You know you’re on GAGR too much when you see this incident live and immediately think “Haha! Ooooooh yes, Dismal is gonna rip in here…”
 
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