Round 7 Reds v Brumbies, Suncorp Stadium 2/4 @ 6:45pm AEST
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Tim Horan (67)
Rocky. Hands down.
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John Thornett (49)
Sheeesh some bruising tackles that game has live.
I really thought the Brumbies were going to turn the screws on us when we had that red card. History meant wed expect to see the Brumbies forgo the 3 and maul it but the defence by the Reds there was incredible.
The entire forward pack really showed up and that brain far by TT may cost him any chance of being picked in the 22 if Uru, Wright and Vest are all fit.
Jordie really seems to excel the more time he has in that role. Just needs to do better holding on in contact.
Flipio proved me wrong and had an excellent game, really glad to see he came back and focussed on doing the basics well.
Rob V has definitely taken his ball carrying speed up a notch. I'm surprised the Reds dealt with him as well as they did. Perhaps he needs to do more with his feet at contact time to deceive the tackler?
Longeran at 9 was solid, I'm definitely looking forward to not seeing White again in Gold. He wasn't even being a pest tonight, just an absolute tosser.
Solomon and Len looked a bit lost without Noah there, and Len didn't even appear to get the ball all that often?
All I can say is, it's scary to compare the Brumbies tight 5 to the Reds. One sole Wallaby in the tight 5 and they took the Brumbies to town even with a man down. Not a good look and I don't see why Caderyn or Frost should be picked ahead of Smith. If Blyth plays like he did tonight I can't see why he shouldn't be in the wider squad either.
I really thought the Brumbies were going to turn the screws on us when we had that red card. History meant wed expect to see the Brumbies forgo the 3 and maul it but the defence by the Reds there was incredible.
The entire forward pack really showed up and that brain far by TT may cost him any chance of being picked in the 22 if Uru, Wright and Vest are all fit.
Jordie really seems to excel the more time he has in that role. Just needs to do better holding on in contact.
Flipio proved me wrong and had an excellent game, really glad to see he came back and focussed on doing the basics well.
Rob V has definitely taken his ball carrying speed up a notch. I'm surprised the Reds dealt with him as well as they did. Perhaps he needs to do more with his feet at contact time to deceive the tackler?
Longeran at 9 was solid, I'm definitely looking forward to not seeing White again in Gold. He wasn't even being a pest tonight, just an absolute tosser.
Solomon and Len looked a bit lost without Noah there, and Len didn't even appear to get the ball all that often?
All I can say is, it's scary to compare the Brumbies tight 5 to the Reds. One sole Wallaby in the tight 5 and they took the Brumbies to town even with a man down. Not a good look and I don't see why Caderyn or Frost should be picked ahead of Smith. If Blyth plays like he did tonight I can't see why he shouldn't be in the wider squad either.
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Steve Williams (59)
I think Valetini should just keep doing what he is doing.
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Greg Davis (50)
I think this every week and then wonder if I would want to punch him so much if he shaved off his moustache.
I have kind of always admired a player who can niggle an opponent but he is just too much.
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Greg Davis (50)
Can a trip be a Red card? Surely this is about as bad as it getsfucking thor! i know that nick white is annoying but seriously
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Steve Williams (59)
Not only that. So many players played the ball on the ground in this game and were not called.
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Geoff Shaw (53)
In a clear scoring opportunity a trip would definitely be a red.
In saying that I wouldn’t be surprised if the review committee come after TT for that one. He’s a recent escapee so I’m sure they’re ready to come after him.
I think the mitigating factor is that it was against White.
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Geoff Shaw (53)
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Geoff Shaw (53)
I believe that’s a SANZAAR approved defence these days.
Clause 187.B: Player Impacted Nick White - all infringements given 4 week reduction.
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Tony Shaw (54)
No, it's not. What is silly is the things players are doing to try and maim people. They just refuse to aim for below the armpits - both the red and the yellow occurred because players wanted to attack around the shoulders and missed by a centimetre or two. It is too hard to be that precise when tackling, so they have to train to go lower. So what if half a dozen players get cards! That just indicates a severe lack of intelligence on their part and on the part of their coaches.
The Swain dive was a clear yellow at the same ruck and he should have gone too. It was just totally dangerous from a player who just wanted to hurt someone rather than effectively dominate the ruck, which he could have done by getting lower.
The very first people who have to change are the head coaches. Mackellar's comments last week show that winning is more important to him than head injuries. What will he say this week? That collaring a player is just part of the game? All the head coaches have to be told to stop players aiming for the high shoulders or they will be sanctioned too. The game will actually be better for it and players will have to train to tackle properly.
Rant over.
PS. I thought Paisami was close to best on ground and clearly dominated Ikitau. When he tackled White he hit him amidships and it was far more effective than trying to grab players around the shoulders. And seismologists are still picking up the aftershocks.
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Peter Johnson (47)
You can’t use the ‘just aim lower’ argument when cleaning out someone pilfering the ball though.
The clean out that drew the red tonight was clearly poor form, but when the whole target area presented to you when coming through the gate is head, neck, and shoulders of the pilferer, the issue isn’t the height of contact
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Tim Horan (67)
My gripe with cards is a generic impact to the game of rugby. To be fair in this particular game, if we had myself reviewing and discounting "rugby incidents", I don't think it would have helped the Reds. Those cards were just given. Angus rolling his eyes and saying "what else can I do with that?". On the other hand I thought there were a couple of Brumbies cards where I might have said "play on.
Not just this game and it is completely starting to be reffed into the game. That and sealing off at the ruck. Of course hit these issues hard, and the card count is hardly reducing.
Not just this game and it is completely starting to be reffed into the game. That and sealing off at the ruck. Of course hit these issues hard, and the card count is hardly reducing.
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Desmond Connor (43)
Particularly pleasurable game in that this is the first time in quite a while that the Brumbies got toweled by another Aussi side. And for the Brumbies to have won they would have needed 2 x converted tries plus another score.
That, ladies & gentlemen, IMHO, is a toweling.
That, ladies & gentlemen, IMHO, is a toweling.
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Tim Horan (67)
Interesting stats: https://www.espn.com/rugby/matchstats?gameId=595134&league=242041
Missed tackles: Reds: 73/88; Brumbies: 94/116. Translate that to the WBs and we are in trouble.
line outs: Reds 6/7; Brumbies 12/14 - which is far closer to parity that I felt watching the game.
Reds first half Possession 42% and territory 44%. You could put it down to the RC +YC, but recollection of the game is an improving Reds after the RC.
Rucks won: Reds 57/58; Brumbies: 41/47. Would have thought this was closer.
But the big differences:
m run: Reds 473m; Brumbies 261m
Kicks from hand: 19; Brumbies 13
[Passes: Reds 102; Brumbies 100}
Runs Reds: 81; Brumbies: 59.
Whether you measure it from passes, possession etc, Reds are simply doing a lot more with the ball they get. They didn't get any more than the Brumbies but simply did stuff will they had the chance.
Missed tackles: Reds: 73/88; Brumbies: 94/116. Translate that to the WBs and we are in trouble.
line outs: Reds 6/7; Brumbies 12/14 - which is far closer to parity that I felt watching the game.
Reds first half Possession 42% and territory 44%. You could put it down to the RC +YC, but recollection of the game is an improving Reds after the RC.
Rucks won: Reds 57/58; Brumbies: 41/47. Would have thought this was closer.
But the big differences:
m run: Reds 473m; Brumbies 261m
Kicks from hand: 19; Brumbies 13
[Passes: Reds 102; Brumbies 100}
Runs Reds: 81; Brumbies: 59.
Whether you measure it from passes, possession etc, Reds are simply doing a lot more with the ball they get. They didn't get any more than the Brumbies but simply did stuff will they had the chance.
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Geoff Shaw (53)
I agree players need to be responsible for their actions, but when does the impact of how the attacking player positions himself start being considered?
For a number of the ruck based cards over the past few weeks, players are simply sealing the ball off or putting themselves in a position where they aren’t legally supporting themselves, but still make a play at the ball. It is impossible to change your ‘target zone’ to adjust for that when their heads are basically on the ground over the ball.
Im not justifying foul play, but something needs to be done by the refs to mitigate those situations before the ruck is allowed to continue and players attempt to remove those players.
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