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Wallabies v France, Paris, Sun 6th Nov 7am AEDT

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Dctarget

John Eales (66)
Funnily enough I thought Australia were the better team but pure stats gives a different image. We missed 28(!) tackles. We coughed the ball up 10 times compared to their 3. Shame we didn't get more change out of our dominant scrum.
 

eastman

Arch Winning (36)
Watchable doesn't suggest great games. I agree last nights was edge of the seat stuff.
I know what you''re saying but watchable to me suggests that the game would be entertaining to someone that is not invested in rugby.

No fairweather fan watched the Scotland game and considered the match entertaining.
 

LeCheese

Peter Johnson (47)
He had just stepped off his right foot and his momentum was towards Campbell, who never completely committed and was in position to make the tackle.
Both of them should have made the tackle. Giving Wright a pass because it was a “difficult tackle against a dangerous ball runner”, but not Campbell, is hypocritical. I’d argue Wright’s was the easier tackle, anyway.
 

The Red Baron

Chilla Wilson (44)
We're still inaccurate at the breakdown, particularly attacking breakdowns, and while there has been definite improvement, there's still a long way to go. The initial arriving players are struggling to shift opposing players, which is slowing the ball considerably or causing a penalty against us. From my casual observations, it feels like their body height and positioning are all wrong. I've seen a few of the loosies blow right past the jackaling player on a number of occasions. It's been happening all year.

Our defence is definitely getting better though. Holloway and Frost made a complete mess of a few of the French breakdowns, which was good to see, but we're still poor when it comes to securing our own ball. I hate seeing a forward runner truck it up without 1-2 other forwards right up his backside. It almost guarantees a turnover.

Impressed by Campbell. His support play was excellent, which is a breath of fresh air.
 
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eastman

Arch Winning (36)
For a guy who supposedly can play ‘10-15’ Hodge was pretty poor at flyhalf.

I think he should probably on be considered as outside back cover these days.
 

Sword of Justice

Vay Wilson (31)
So.... except for the foot he put wrong.

It wasn't difficult - he was turning a little slow but caught the guy easily and got swiped off with a simple palm, 15 metres out. Had him covered for all money.

For the record: I thought Campbell was solid for his second game at this level, but let's not bandy about the word "blinder" when "solid" is closer to the truth.
Call it what you like but if he keeps playing solid games he shouldn't be losing his spot to Banks or any of the wingers in the squad.

What I found so impressive was that he was bankable in defence, notwithstanding our disagreement, but also provided spark in attack. That's becoming rarer for our national team.
 

eastman

Arch Winning (36)
It’s refreshing to see a fullback whose first instinct is to run the ball and he’s quite dangerous.

Obviously physicality will always be an issue but it’s something that will just have to be manages.
 

KOB1987

Rod McCall (65)
For a guy who supposedly can play ‘10-15’ Hodge was pretty poor at flyhalf.

I think he should probably on be considered as outside back cover these days.
He shouldn’t have been subbed on for foley, that’s on Rennie. For wright or Kellaway, yes.
 

Derpus

George Gregan (70)
Funnily enough I thought Australia were the better team but pure stats gives a different image. We missed 28(!) tackles. We coughed the ball up 10 times compared to their 3. Shame we didn't get more change out of our dominant scrum.
It was only really dominant in the first. Was parity otherwise.
 

molman

Peter Johnson (47)
Molman: Cleaned up my act and will stick to stats (Unchecked) I had it 8-0 to the French, now it is hardly my best English but a beating is close enough.
One more point, if you don't think it was the speed of cleanout and support players to the tackled player, we are never going to agree. The tackled player can do nothing apart from attempt to stay on his feet (maul = lose ball or scrum), short or long placement. The rest is up to supporting players and they were a couple of seconds too late all day as per usual.
Don't disagree that speed and quality of our cleanouts by the supporting players is the major factor, but it's simplistic to say that the attacking/tackled player is not a factor, beyond staying on your feet and or long/short placement. Footwork entering tackle, body height, core strength in twisting body to place... there is a reason some players get turned over more than others and it's not always their team mates fault.
 

PhilClinton

Geoff Shaw (53)
Still a ways to go for rugby to capture the minds of the ‘casual viewer’. Knew a lot of people who got up to watch the game this morning, which was great to hear considering for us non-daylight savers it was a bit of an early Sunday morning.

Anyway, as I’ve spoken to a few people throughout the day it’s amazing that once the Wallabies started their first half meltdown, so many switched over to watch the RLWC and Fiji nearly beating NZ. That game literally wasn’t on anyone’s radars, but once word got out about the score line, a lot of people flicked over.

To compound things, a lot of them feel justified with flicking channels because the Wallabies ended up ‘losing as expected’. It’s an uphill battle for sure…
 

Viking

Mark Ella (57)
He shouldn’t have been subbed on for foley, that’s on Rennie. For wright or Kellaway, yes.

To be fair, it looked like Foley was absolutely cooked when he came off. I doubt he had much left in him. I really don't think it was that bad of a sub, especially given how good Hodge has been in the past off the bench. Hodge just had a bad game. His big boot should have been used more effectively and we would have won.
 

Viking

Mark Ella (57)
Incoming:

1. A post by @Braveheart81 critiquing Campbell's one misstep as if it encompasses his whole match. Then suggesting we need to work in more experience in the fullback position ("oh, I dunno........... Maybe Kurtley Beale, with Marky Mark (Nawaqanitawase) (Nawaqanitawase) on the wing and Campbell to suck some eggs in the training squad"). The final paragraph being a statement of opinion as if it's an established fact.

2. A post by @barbarian starting with "I'm a Jock fan, but........." followed by a series of statements that clearly show he is anything other than a Jock fan.

3. Me going fucking spastic at the ridiculousness of those posts and getting another timeout.

Except Pfizy was spot on when he said Campbell was solid. He did not have a blinder. Your standard must be very low if that's the case. Which isn't really a surprise given how we have been playing over the last decade.
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Except Pfizy was spot on when he said Campbell was solid. He did not have a blinder. Your standard must be very low if that's the case. Which isn't really a surprise given how we have been playing over the last decade.

I reckon for a first test start in France against the #2 side, it was a blinder. Scored a try and played a key role in the other. Missed a key tackle in the last 5 but other than that was faultless (I think?) in the air and always looked dangerous ball in hand. Read the game well and mixed it up between kicking and running.
 

Derpus

George Gregan (70)
I reckon for a first test start in France against the #2 side, it was a blinder. Scored a try and played a key role in the other. Missed a key tackle in the last 5 but other than that was faultless (I think?) in the air and always looked dangerous ball in hand. Read the game well and mixed it up between kicking and running.
Did more than Banks usually does, at the very least.

Still time to improve tackle technique.
 

Shiggins

Steve Williams (59)
World rugby are clamping down on talk back to refs etc. The refs would have talked about how poor Australia are at this and with this in mind they get penalised more than other teams.
Shiggins you prove my point. If we are too dumb to not know how Peyper refs after several years of him blowing the whistle, we deserve all we get.
But he didn't ref likentaht when France jackled and we were on attack. He let them continually steal the ball without releasing., Hands in the ruck, terrible in the side clean outs.
 
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