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Rugby Championship 2025: Wallabies v Argentina

TSR

Steve Williams (59)
Am I correct this is the first concussion this year that hasn’t been as a result of foul play? Two high shots and one illegal clean out? Wasn’t last years also due to foul play?
 

Wilson

Tim Horan (67)
There's been a lot (rightly) said about Wilson's ballsy call and commitment to the win at the end, but my favourite moment of his captaincy this game was seeing him pull Tupou into line after his second no arms tackle. Really good to see the commitment to improved discipline in play there, too often in the past our captains have looked put upon or a bit petulant when the team gets a talking to from the ref, rather than actually looking to do something about the problem.

Massive game around the ground from him too, I'm continuously amazed by his ability to just keep working and turning up for big moments for the full 80. It's rare to see a break by either side where Harry isn't in the first 3 players there, and he keeps pulling out plays like that maul defence or the kick through with a follow up charge down, turning the game for us.
 

Ignoto

Geoff Shaw (53)
4 starting games now, how many do we look to give a young 10? 15-20 to find his feet? I still think the better option for his development would have been to keep him in the bench for a while. JOC (James O'Connor) (James O'Connor) (James O'Connor) is right there and then he comes on for last 20 mins
Unsure why Tom is being singled out for this game.

Almost every Wallaby player did some good things but also countered it with doing something equally poor ie dropped balls, penalties or didnt execute something.

For the two set piece tries it looked like we didn't work hard enough; Valetini didn't get off the scrum fast enough on the first and White wasn't able to track the 9 off the scrum for the second try. This created overloads.

Biggest problem was the gifting of field position and ball through all the penalties in the first half. Meant we couldn't put pressure on the argies like we did in teh second half.
 

Hogan

Ward Prentice (10)
Concerning times for young Lynagh with the news of another failed HIA. Just as concerning that he came off with tight hamstrings. That’s been an ongoing issue for him unfortunately. His long term health is his main priority.

These continued head knocks highlight the reasons why coaches tend to defend playmakers on the wing. To try and shield them from contact. Someone mentioned earlier that we expect our 10’s to tackle like back rowers. But as playmakers they need to stay fresh and alert to fulfil their main role.
 
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noscrumnolife

Billy Sheehan (19)
Unsure why Tom is being singled out for this game.

Almost every Wallaby player did some good things but also countered it with doing something equally poor ie dropped balls, penalties or didnt execute something.
Probably because whilst others did good things he didn't do much at all.

As I have said previously, he's a good young player .

But his touches are incredibly low, he's not passing much and his kicking is alright, both out of hand and from the tee. but nothing to write home about. He's in the backfield a lot and has been targeted in the air every game he's played.

The first missed tackle was kak, the second try I think was more of a team thing. But to the naked eye whilst I don't think he's been awful, he does seem to be a bit of a passenger.
 

The Ghost of Raelene

John Eales (66)
I think he has done good things at Super Rugby level, hasn’t delivered that at test level yet. Don’t think anyone will be giving him wraps for his test performances but the injuries and HIAs certainly aren’t helping the consistency there.
This is it. Have seen it the level down but not yet at Test. Very young so plenty to still be developed. His physical characteristics are a potential hinder though
 

Hogan

Ward Prentice (10)
Unsure why Tom is being singled out for this game.

Almost every Wallaby player did some good things but also countered it with doing something equally poor ie dropped balls, penalties or didnt execute something.

For the two set piece tries it looked like we didn't work hard enough; Valetini didn't get off the scrum fast enough on the first and White wasn't able to track the 9 off the scrum for the second try. This created overloads.

Biggest problem was the gifting of field position and ball through all the penalties in the first half. Meant we couldn't put pressure on the argies like we did in teh second half.
To be fair, all our 10’s get singled out if they have a below par performance. It’s such a crucial position, they are always in the spotlight and the team’s performance more often than not usually hinges on how the main playmaker performs.
 

Yoda

John Solomon (38)
Concerning times for young Lynagh with the news of another failed HIA. Just as concerning that he came off with tight hamstrings. That’s be an ongoing issue for him unfortunately. His long term health is his main priority.

These continued head knocks highlight the reasons why coaches tend to defend playmakers on the wing. To try and shield them from contact. Someone mentioned earlier that we expect our 10’s to tackle like back rowers. But as playmakers they need to stay fresh and alert to fulfil their main role.
Someone gets it. A playmaker is supposed to organise the attack. Not be some hit man tackle god. Sure he is expected to do some tackling but it's not why he's there. A lot of people on here think that because Lynagh and ....gone to NRL Carter Gordon ... are better tacklers that they are automatically our best 10's. Give me a break. Young Tom needs to be rested for some time and ponder his future. The amount of head knocks he's had is getting pretty serious.
 

Strewthcobber

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Lynagh tackle at 55:07 is pretty clearly where the head impact happens.

The Argie winger runs straight at Lynagh, and he has a front on tackle where he doesn't get his head to one side or the other.

Then has to make another tackle straight after which he seems to stay down for (although camera moves away)

He comes off one minute later
 

Major Tom

Alan Cameron (40)
This seems worse for Tom that he is likely carrying around long term symptoms that are being flared up really easily.

I was confident he had a bit more space on the topic but if he’s getting incidental ones it really starts making things hard. I’m sure it doesn’t help a 10s play even if he’s not consciously avoiding contact. Could it explain led to a few lapsed moments in the game as well…

Is there a point you just sit there bloke until Super Rugby next year? I know we want games into the young guys but if he’s risking not making it to 2027 going the way he is then sit him for a few months and let him heal.
I’m obviously no concussion expert but this is starting to feel like Will Puckovski who seemed to get concussed running between the wickets. With that case he definitely had lingering symptoms but some of it appeared to be mental health issues (anxiety). Now I’m not suggesting they weren’t real but it seemed like the worry of getting a head knock were similar to actually sustaining a head knock. Back to lynagh, I do remember when he had hammy issues he was apparently medically right to go but didn’t have confidence in his body and pulled out of selection for the wallabies. Someone can tell me this but I’m unsure if he actually failed his HIA or if it was a mouth guard ping or if that constitutes an automatic failure. Hopefully we get to bottom of it because he can’t keep coping these hits.
 

Strewthcobber

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Someone can tell me this but I’m unsure if he actually failed his HIA or if it was a mouth guard ping or if that constitutes an automatic failure. Hopefully we get to bottom of it because he can’t keep coping these hits.
I think he probably was substituted for the hamstring, but then soon after the doctor reviewing video would have seen the tackle or the mouthguard would have pinged, and he would have had the HIA off field straight after.

It doesn't look like it's a small or unual knock, or anything like that, too small to cause a concussion. He just got his head on the wrong side and got smashed by a guy running very hard into the impact.
 

Major Tom

Alan Cameron (40)
I think he probably was substituted for the hamstring, but then soon after the doctor reviewing video would have seen the tackle or the mouthguard would have pinged, and he would have had the HIA off field straight after.

It doesn't look like it's a small or unual knock, or anything like that, too small to cause a concussion. He just got his head on the wrong side and got smashed by a guy running very hard into the impact.
Thanks mate. After posting I found your comment. Watching the replay now so I'll keep my eyes on it. Whilst no concussion is a good thing at least they're coming off big hits not the glass jaw situation. He's getting his head in the wrong place (Lions one and the one from a Red's teammate) so at least it's encouraging that he could improve with better tackle technique.
 
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