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Beale and Cooper in boozy incident

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Arch Winning (36)
Beale faces charge of assaulting bouncer
  • From: AAP
  • July 24, 2012 10:39AM
WALLABIES star Kurtley Beale will go to mediation over allegations he hit a bouncer at a popular Brisbane pub.

Beale, 23, faces a charge of common assault over the alleged incident at the Victory Hotel in early June.

It's alleged he struck one of the security staff after he and team-mate Quade Cooper tried to re-enter the premises after being ejected.

During a very brief mention of the matter on Tuesday in the Brisbane Magistrates Court, Beale's lawyer, Angelo Venardos, said his client would enter mediation to try to resolve the matter out of court.

The matter was adjourned for eight weeks to allow this to occur.

Beale was excused from appearing at the next mention in August, when it's expected the court will be told the outcome of the meditation.

I guess this solves the problem then?
 

Ignoto

John Thornett (49)
I guess this solves the problem then?

So has this been put to bed by the ARU yet? The latest article I've come across says nothing's happened and it's been put back to the 24th of this month ie this week.

http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/...r-losing-contact/story-e6frfkp9-1226487871873

So lets say it gets thrown out by the court this week, will Beale face any form of disciplinary actions by the ARU? With the EOYT just around the corner and no Fly-Halves being fit do we expect that all will be forgotten?
 

Jets

Paul McLean (56)
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I doubt it. After the last 2 test the perception is that Deans will be in the job until the end of his contract. He isn't going to risk that by not having Beale at 10 for the EOYT. He will push hard for Beale to have a suspended sentence by the ARU or financial punishment.
 

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David Codey (61)
So has this been put to bed by the ARU yet? The latest article I've come across says nothing's happened and it's been put back to the 24th of this month ie this week.

http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/...r-losing-contact/story-e6frfkp9-1226487871873

So lets say it gets thrown out by the court this week, will Beale face any form of disciplinary actions by the ARU? With the EOYT just around the corner and no Fly-Halves being fit do we expect that all will be forgotten?
There is a precedent.QC (Quade Cooper) was in exactly the same situation and dealt with it the same way (via mediation to have charges drop)
KB (Kurtley Beale) should get exactly the same punishment that QC (Quade Cooper) was given,whatever that was.
 

James Buchanan

Trevor Allan (34)
It should be pointed out that it may be very difficult for the prosecution to prove their case if they are missing a key witness such as the victim in this matter. There may have been others present but the absence of the victim in a case such as this would be quite a blow.
 

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Will Genia (78)
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Would he be able to get a visa if convicted?

Most likely. It would be pretty uncommon for a country to deny a sports star a visa over a minor conviction.

It is somewhat unusual that New Zealand has denied Mike Tyson a visa for a prior rape conviction.
 

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Greg Davis (50)
Most likely. It would be pretty uncommon for a country to deny a sports star a visa over a minor conviction.

It is somewhat unusual that New Zealand has denied Mike Tyson a visa for a prior rape conviction.
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=735600
Michael Crocker has become the second high-profile NRL player to be refused a visa to play in the English Super League, fuelling speculation that Greg Bird could soon become the third.
Hull FC are considering appealing the decision by the British High Commission which also rejected an application by former Canberra bad boy Todd Carney to join Huddersfield.
Test backrower Crocker, 28, had hinted that he would consider retiring if the three-year English deal fell through.
Hull FC said no explanation had been given for the refusal.
However, both Crocker and Carney had convictions.
Crocker was arrested following a scuffle with police outside a Sydney hotel in 2005 and convicted of affray.
It is hardly music to the ears of former Cronulla star Bird who is waiting for his visa application to be processed in order to link with Bradford.
Bird, on a contract of $360,000 a year, was stood down by the Sharks after allegedly assaulting his girlfriend Katie Milligan.
He is due to face court again in Sydney on April 27 on charges of reckless wounding, assault occasioning actual bodily harm and two charges of lying to police.
But Rugby Football League executive chairman Richard Lewis was still confident Bird would play in the 2009 Super League.
"I'm relaxed about it. If it's within the rules, which it is, that's fine," he told British reporters.
"I don't have a problem with it. He wasn't banned in the NRL so he's free to play in Super League.
"I'm not aware of any problem. It's up to him and the club to process the application."
Bradford was panned by rival Leeds' chief executive Gary Hetherington for snapping up Bird, describing it as "an embarrassment to Super League".
While an appeal may be on the cards, time is running out for Crocker to join his Hull FC teammates before February 13's season opener against Wigan.
"Hull FC and Michael are reviewing the papers from the consulate in order to determine the next steps," a Hull FC statement said.
"Neither Michael nor Hull FC will make any further comment at this stage until their course of action is established.
"The visa system does provide a right of appeal and the club does not wish to compromise a potential appeal by making public comment at this stage."
Crocker had been training with former Melbourne teammates as he sweated on the visa green light.
But it is not just players with troubled pasts who are experiencing visa application problems.
A tightening of the visa regulation system has led to delays in the arrivals of many players from Down Under.
Newcomers Celtic Crusaders are the worst hit - they are still waiting for eight members of their senior squad to arrive.
Celtic kick off their inaugural Super League campaign against champions Leeds next Friday
This worked out good for me as a Rabbitohs supporter.

I really hope there are no special rules for sportsmen
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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I think there is a substantial difference in granting someone a visa to live and work in a country compared to allowing them entry on a temporary basis to play for a touring international sporting team.
 

rugbysmartarse

Alan Cameron (40)
Australia refused Snoop Dogg a visa for prior drugs charges. He had to cancel a tour.

I guess it depends on how big a rugby fan the assessing officer is
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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Politics comes into it too.

For instance, if a professional sportsman who wanted to move to England for a season to play football wasn't granted a visa based on a prior conviction then no one really bats an eyelid.

Denying a visa to a member of a touring international team is less likely as there will be some political fallout and accusations of denying a fair contest.

In relation to Snoop Dogg (or now Snoop Lion), he also has firearms convictions.
 
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