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2013 Super Rugby Final - CHIEFS v BRUMBIES

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Brumby Jack

Brumby Jack

Steve Williams (59)
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Chiefs team named:

  1. Toby Smith
  2. Hika Elliot
  3. Ben Tameifuna
  4. Craig Clarke
  5. Brodie Retallick
  6. Liam Messam
  7. Tanerau Latimer
  8. Matt Vant Leven
  9. Tawera Kerr-Barlow
  10. Aaron Cruden
  11. Asaeli Tikoirotuma
  12. Andrew Horrell
  13. Charlie Ngatai
  14. Lelia Masaga/Robbie Robinson
  15. Gareth Anscombe
  16. Rhys Marshall
  17. Ben Afeaki
  18. Michael Fitzgerald
  19. Sam Cane
  20. Augustine Pulu
  21. Bundee Aki
  22. Robbie Robinson/Patrick Osborne
 
Chiefton

Chiefton

Herbert Moran (7)
Sounds biased coming from me, but if Cruden were to go down Anscombe is a more than capable five eighth and Robinson the same at fullback. Both of these lads are also damn good field kickers.
If it's Cruden's ability to set the pace of the game TKB is also a fine substitute in this area of the game.

The more this week progresses the more confident I become. Don't worry i'll still be cacking it right before kick off.
Once again best of luck and enjoy our shores to those lucky enough to find tickets and make the trip.
 
Rassie

Rassie

Trevor Allan (34)
FrankLind said:
Interesting and surprising article about the stats for the Chiefs.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=10906792
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Dunno wht the guy is trying to show there? Considering he haven't mention their excellent rucking percentage. Then there is the fact that possession is not a guarantee of success. And the impact of the set piece also changed in 2009. Whereas over the lineout has been the major possession vehicle from which tries were scored it changed to scrums and of course since the law tweaks have been done to favor kiwi teams they can now resume scoring tries like they did prior Jake White era thats of kick returns. So no more passing back to 22 and booting it out. You have to take the risk. Kiwis lost WC's like that but everyone is forced to do that meant everyone lost it as well
 
Slim 293

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Brumbies unchanged..........

1. Scott Sio
2. Stephen Moore
3. Ben Alexander
4. Scott Fardy
5. Sam Carter
6. Peter Kimlin
7. George Smith
8. Ben Mowen (c)
9. Nic White
10. Matt To'omua
11. Clyde Rathbone
12. Christian Lealiifano
13. Tevita Kuridrani
14. Henry Speight
15. Jesse Mogg

Replacements
16. Siliva Siliva
17. Ruan Smith
18. Fotu Auelua
19. Colby Fainga'a
20. Ian Prior
21. Andrew Smith
22. Joe Tomane
 
FrankLind

FrankLind

Colin Windon (37)
Rassie said:
Dunno wht the guy is trying to show there? Considering he haven't mention their excellent rucking percentage. Then there is the fact that possession is not a guarantee of success. And the impact of the set piece also changed in 2009. Whereas over the lineout has been the major possession vehicle from which tries were scored it changed to scrums and of course since the law tweaks have been done to favor kiwi teams they can now resume scoring tries like they did prior Jake White era thats of kick returns. So no more passing back to 22 and booting it out. You have to take the risk. Kiwis lost WC's like that but everyone is forced to do that meant everyone lost it as well
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He is showing that despite the least possession of any Super side and also the worst lineout, yet they placed top of the table. - to most sane rugby followers, that is a surprising statistic.
 
Rassie

Rassie

Trevor Allan (34)
FrankLind said:
He is showing that despite the least possession of any Super side and also the worst lineout, yet they placed top of the table. - to most sane rugby followers, that is a surprising statistic.
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Whenever people are surprised by stats I just mention the following 3 lines.

First prize: Bust the line.
Second prize: Build momentum.
Third prize: Squeeze a penalty.
 
Dam0

Dam0

Dave Cowper (27)
FrankLind said:
He is showing that despite the least possession of any Super side and also the worst lineout, yet they placed top of the table. - to most sane rugby followers, that is a surprising statistic.
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The possession one shouldn't be a surprise anymore. Possession stats haven't been a reliable indicator of the likely result for years. Some teams are very good at using the ball they get and score or go close to scoring quickly after receiving it. Other teams hold onto the ball for long periods of time, keeping the ball close to the forwards and hoping to recycle it until they get an opportunity to score.

I hate to bring it back to NZ, but the All Blacks tend not to get a majority of possession in their games, yet they do OK.
 
Rassie

Rassie

Trevor Allan (34)
Dam0 said:
The possession one shouldn't be a surprise anymore. Possession stats haven't been a reliable indicator of the likely result for years. Some teams are very good at using the ball they get and score or go close to scoring quickly after receiving it. Other teams hold onto the ball for long periods of time, keeping the ball close to the forwards and hoping to recycle it until they get an opportunity to score.

I hate to bring it back to NZ, but the All Blacks tend not to get a majority of possession in their games, yet they do OK.
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have you seen the stats?

Robert Ebersohn with 30 turnovers....... Epic!

SA won the 2009 Tri Nations with 39 percent ball lol
 
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