CAS Rugby 2015

[oldandslow]

I think that Trinity has its best player from last year, prop Harry McClennan returning.

Wayland played at prop for NSW and if TGS field him there then they'll have two very skillful and mobile props up front.

In the second row I think Liam Rasch is also back, after a fine year last year, and Filipo will presumably be locking beside him.

Then you have guys like Morris and Longville in the backs.

As those above have alluded, for Trinity it will come down to team cohesion and a bit of luck with injuries, but they have some quality players to build a squad around.

Also bear in mind that 3 regular 1st XV members from last year (Wayland, Longville and Morris) are only in year 11 in 2015. These boys will all be stronger, faster and more mature in 2015.

I'm not making any predictions about where TGS will finish, as there are plenty of good players returning for the other schools too, but if they can play consistently and with team spirit they might surprise some more highly fancied teams.

Last year's tournament was wonderfully competitive at the top and I think everyone enjoyed watching a disciplined and spirited Cranbook side pip out the big spending Knox team. You can't buy spirit
and it'll be interesting to see which of these schoolboy teams will take a leaf out of Cranbrook's book from last year.

 

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Posted by Waves to Win in the GPS forum​

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From a Waverley perspective, we have two tough trials against View and Newington in a matter of weeks (21st for View, 28th for Newington.) Have not being heavily involved in the GPS other than watching a game or two at Scots in the past years as my mates son was in another schools first XV. Was just wondering how the View and Newington are shaping up this year respectively, and Waves will also have a trial with Scots during the Term 2-3 holidays and from reading the thread I can safely assume the boys will be in for a real test.​

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Thanks for your helpful replies, and look forward to a brutal game against all three, which aims to be some of the most competitive in year as Waves are shaping up to have a really successful year hopefully. Cheers in advance!​

 

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I think that Trinity has its best player from last year, prop Harry McClennan returning.

Wayland played at prop for NSW and if TGS field him there then they'll have two very skillful and mobile props up front.

In the second row I think Liam Rasch is also back, after a fine year last year, and Filipo will presumably be locking beside him.

Then you have guys like Morris and Longville in the backs.

As those above have alluded, for Trinity it will come down to team cohesion and a bit of luck with injuries, but they have some quality players to build a squad around.

Also bear in mind that 3 regular 1st XV members from last year (Wayland, Longville and Morris) are only in year 11 in 2015. These boys will all be stronger, faster and more mature in 2015.

I'm not making any predictions about where TGS will finish, as there are plenty of good players returning for the other schools too, but if they can play consistently and with team spirit they might surprise some more highly fancied teams.

Last year's tournament was wonderfully competitive at the top and I think everyone enjoyed watching a disciplined and spirited Cranbook side pip out the big spending Knox team. You can't buy spirit
and it'll be interesting to see which of these schoolboy teams will take a leaf out of Cranbrook's book from last year.

I agree. It looks like Trinity will field a strong side in what's shaping up as a very competitive CAS Comp.

 

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Posted by Waves to Win in the GPS forum​

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From a Waverley perspective, we have two tough trials against View and Newington in a matter of weeks (21st for View, 28th for Newington.) Have not being heavily involved in the GPS other than watching a game or two at Scots in the past years as my mates son was in another schools first XV. Was just wondering how the View and Newington are shaping up this year respectively, and Waves will also have a trial with Scots during the Term 2-3 holidays and from reading the thread I can safely assume the boys will be in for a real test.​

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Thanks for your helpful replies, and look forward to a brutal game against all three, which aims to be some of the most competitive in year as Waves are shaping up to have a really successful year hopefully. Cheers in advance!​

Tough trials indeed for the Waves 1st XV.
Are you sure the Scots trial will be played?

 

[William]

Was watching my son train for CAS swimming at Knox and the Rugby boys were next door in the gym. They look big! Not good for swimming but I reckon that they will be sizeable bunch of lads

 

[blindsideflanker]

Was watching my son train for CAS swimming at Knox and the Rugby boys were next door in the gym. They look big! Not good for swimming but I reckon that they will be sizeable bunch of lads

They were bigger than everyone else last year as well and Cranbrook beat them.

 

[Runner]

Was there not also a forfeit in the Waratah Shield last year

 

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They were bigger than everyone else last year as well and Cranbrook beat them.

as did Waverley

 

[SonnyDillWilliams]

Amazing the money being thrown around at knox ...

Between that and the sheer numbers .... Year 7, I gather has 300+ kids!

you would have to wonder, if Across all sports, it is going to be become increasingly hard for other cas schools to compete

The cas and gps models increasingly looking broken IMHO ... Unless you like a mismatch

 

[harry247]

hey mate i see u follow CAS i heard waves under 15s have a solid team. any names to look out for?

Amazing the money being thrown around at knox .

Between that and the sheer numbers .. Year 7, I gather has 300+ kids!

you would have to wonder, if Across all sports, it is going to be become increasingly hard for other cas schools to compete

The cas and gps models increasingly looking broken IMHO . Unless you like a mismatch

 

[William]

Knox is about revenue nowadays - cram in the kids, pay for the Royal Comm and swimming scholarships

Having said that it wont be a Knox year this year for the first - yes they are big and been working the gym but I agree with the commentary - its not about how big you are

but I can say that the U16s contigent - largely an unbeaten team since Year 7 (except two results last year - one an extremely emotional affair at Trinity after one of their boys passed away during the week and another where injury killed the game in QP against Wav) will be hard to stop as these boys start pushihg for First 15 spots . A group of very very talented boys

 

[brownie24]

Hello fellow bloggers. My son Has been training for CAS swimming at know lately and yes i agree that the Knox boys are quite large and muscular. Although a few weeks ago i saw them down on there main oval on a Saturday. I could here the S/C coach yelling at the boys to push themselves and my word did they not. Knox are a very strong chance this year, being very fit and very agilitized and also muscular. They seem to be on top of there lineouts and scrums but also backs moves and set plays. You can tell they have put in the hard yards since day 1 of summer sport.

shall be an interesting year this year though. Major contenders Knox,Trinity, maybe Cranbrook..

 

[WavesToWin]

Let's not eliminate any teams from the get go. Let the footy do the talking

 

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Let's not eliminate any teams from the get go. Let the footy do the talking

Too true ... although i don't mind Waverley flying under the radar.

 

[Snort]

I agree. It looks like Trinity will field a strong side in what's shaping up as a very competitive CAS Comp.

A feature of this year's competition is that many schools have several good players from last year returning. Trinity, Waverley and St Aloysius all had very young teams last year. Cranbrook and Knox, last year's leaders, have a good core of young players coming back (though not some of their stars). Barker looks solid too. It could be a very even competition, although Knox has exceptional resources and depth, which will make it hard to beat. Depth is always an issue for the schools with the smaller pools of players, which is why Trinity and St Aloysius, in particular, struggle if they are unlucky with injuries.

There's a trap, of course, to this. We tend to assume that because a particular player who was good in Year 11 is returning, his impact will be at least as great in Year 12. It doesn't always work that way. Apart from injuries, some players lose form, other teams learn how to counter them, they overplay their hand or they get distracted by exams. It happens (surprisingly often) that excellent players in Year 11 are less impressive in Year 12. It also happens that players in Year 11 who were merely adequate remain merely adequate in Year 12, instead of stepping up. So the logic that runs "School X will do better this year because nine players with 1st XV experience are returning", whilst appealing, does not always hold.

 

[M squad 2015]

word is that knox have a squad of 40 (possibly more) that train 4 times a week. Play an internal trial on saturday and do not play a summer sport (not sure on the frequency ) - all of this since november. Another line from the grape vine is that their coach is on 150k?? if this happens to be true does any one else think that it is ridiculous at school boy level for an external coach to be paid 150k (for 10 games of the season?)

 

[William]

Yes the coaching director is on a small fortune - > then the figure you quoted....

Knox have had summer rugby and lots of sessions per week - most boys doing 3 -4 sessions and the message has been that a boy playing a summer sport may miss out on the A team selections - which has really annoyed their other sports depts

right from 16a upwards you have to focus on rugby only

JGC is a definite NoNo

 

[SonnyDillWilliams]

scots college are often accused (on other threads) of seeking world domination, but Knox has everything Scots has and more

big screen video scoreboard ... tick
overpaid specialist rugby director ... tick
Ivy league gym and training facilities ... tick
in-house physio & related sports expertise ... tick
Hyperbaric chamber ... on order
large & growing prep (unrestricted by Bellevue Hill action group) ...tick
support band including bagpipes ... tick

and there is no Glengary, which might interfere with rugby prog.

it only makes the victory even sweeter, when the likes of Waverley, knocks the wind out of them

although I wouldn't bet my house on it ... at least not in 2015 ...

... even in the 16s and 15s, Knox would have to be firm favorites
go Waves

 

[WavesToWin]

scots college are often accused (on other threads) of seeking world domination, but Knox has everything Scots has and more

big screen video scoreboard . tick
overpaid specialist rugby director . tick
Ivy league gym and training facilities . tick
in-house physio & related sports expertise . tick
Hyperbaric chamber . on order
large & growing prep (unrestricted by Bellevue Hill action group) .tick
support band including bagpipes . tick

and there is no Glengary, which might interfere with rugby prog.

it only makes the victory even sweeter, when the likes of Waverley, knocks the wind out of them

although I wouldn't bet my house on it . at least not in 2015 .

. even in the 16s and 15s, Knox would have to be firm favorites
go Waves

your a good man!

 

[jeff thomson]

scots college are often accused (on other threads) of seeking world domination, but Knox has everything Scots has and more

big screen video scoreboard . tick
overpaid specialist rugby director . tick
Ivy league gym and training facilities . tick
in-house physio & related sports expertise . tick
Hyperbaric chamber . on order
large & growing prep (unrestricted by Bellevue Hill action group) .tick
support band including bagpipes . tick

and there is no Glengary, which might interfere with rugby prog.

it only makes the victory even sweeter, when the likes of Waverley, knocks the wind out of them

although I wouldn't bet my house on it . at least not in 2015 .

. even in the 16s and 15s, Knox would have to be firm favorites
go Waves

Hows that when Waves won the 14's and 15's last year?