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Ken Catchpole (46)
Yes. Just like the slightly-old days.
NSW AAGPS 2017
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Even though coaches can put the results of trial matches into perspective, individual players couldn't afford to take the games lightly with Rep spots up for grabs.
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David Wilson (68)
I don't think that anyone took them lightly, but I do think that they used the fact that they were trials to rotate players through the squad. This may have skewed some results.
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Herbert Moran (7)
As a long time referee myself, I know how hard it is to make those split-second decisions. I haven't seen it but the young man wouldn't have been attending school anymore, especially if it was his suggestion to make it a red as thats not allowed under GPS guidelines. For all we know it may have been the referees call. I've been to a fair few referee clinics recently and they're really trying to cut down on anything past the horizontal. If there is any neck involved, straight red; I guess that's what the young man saw. I get that the player has always been a fair player but even the best of us can make a mistake like that.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Thats how it used to be.
I've found it promotes spirited discussions when you bump into blokes 30 years later, so it has that social element going for it.
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Trevor Allan (34)
But Pope Frank is a JesuitHow many times do I have to tell you blokes, Riverview AREN'T Catholics, they're Jesuits!
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Trevor Allan (34)
A rumour. I thought he was an Argie...
Just don't mention Las Malvinas
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Chris McKivat (8)
Unfortunately how it used to be does not make it better. That is why it was changed a few years ago.
I can also tell you that a number of boys in the firsts and seconds have stated that the delay in the start of the comp has dragged it out unnecessarily. Finally they start the comp and then it's school holidays before Round 2.
It's a ridiculous situation to say the least.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Depends what your purpose is.
I think you'll find it was changed a few years ago because of SGS/SBHS pulling out of 1st XV comp and CAS not being in a position to provide extensive trials because of their 2 round comp, rather than to give pundits more rugby bang for the education dollar.
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David Wilson (68)
Indeed. I think that playing 7 weeks of trials for a 5 game competition makes little sense. Added to which is the issue of one competition match and then a 4 week break.
On top of that is the knock-on effect to the 3rds competition, where the previous 10 week 1st/2nds format worked quite well with a 9 week 3rds format - just one extra trial for the 3rds. A 9 week 3rds doesn't go so well with a 5 week competition format - even when you exclude a team and make it an 8 week 3rds format. This is felt right through the age groups where games have to be found for the TAS teams.
What we've also seen is that only 1 CAS school can provide the number of teams to fit in with the GPS schools and a second CAS school can field highly competitive teams, but not enough of them.
The stated idea was to reduce the necessity for schools (or one in particular) to have to play multiple opposition at multiple venues - this has if anything happened more rather than less under this format. Of course, the hidden agenda of said school was to remove the need to travel to Armidale and the end game is to move the schools who are only in the 3rds competition out so that they don't have to send a 3rds squad to a different venue.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Those issues are getting worse. My impression from speaking to ex movers and shakers at HH was that it is verging on impossible whichever way you cut that cake
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Hey #Sweetchillination
After reading/viewing the results from the recent trial games between GPS and CAS I must say I was a little disappointed that the ISA teams didn’t get into any of the action. As a proud ISA blogger (please go and have a look at our forum for more insight) I have some potentially controversial statements about the state of your famous competition. The ISA has grown in leaps and bounds over the past few seasons. This growth has been seen in many victories over both GPS and CAS teams (e.g. Stannies vs Shore, Stannies vs Knox). Not to mention GPS teams being too scared to face the music and play the new nursery for wallabies of St. Augustines.
The mouth watering prospect of seeing an ISA vs GPS fixture is beyond me matchups such as Charlie “And the great glass elevator” Rourke vs Donnie “Rolf is a” Freeman, Dom “ Lite n” Easy vs Yool “once again” Yool,” Back in” Bo “river” Abra vs Kyle “technique is anything but” Devine (and lets remember where Easy and Devine were poached from…. You guessed it ISA). However the powers have let me down once more (thanks ARU and my nemesis Bill “Hates grass roots rugby” Pulver) and failed to schedule this fixture. Can anyone give me a reason why? Cause just the thought of this one gets my sauce spicy. I feel this failure in scheduling is emblematic of the larger problem that the ISA has been relegated as a second division competition when it is well and truly up there with you lot. Now I am not saying the ISA is better than your great competition but imagine this match up! It gets my sauces in a heap when it seems to me that both GPS and CAS underestimate the ISA competition. Although I must give credit that the GPS is nowhere near as arrogant as those morons from CAS. So my question is to my fellow schoolboy bloggers why is the ISA competition compared to a third world country????
If you ask me one of the biggest problems with the development of players in this country is the overreliance on the GPS to produce wallabies. Now this isn’t the GPS’ fault but I do feel if you don’t come from a big rich school you don’t have a realistic chance of making it to higher representative honours. For example there is young gentleman from Kinross Donnie “My man crush” Freeman who already has been mentioned in my opinion is the next big thing. He plays 7 and is any absolute weapon yet no one has heard of him because he doesn’t go to Joeys or Riverview. In my opinion this boy is far superior to Rouke but once again he won’t get anywhere because he isn’t involved in the GPS system….
To summarise I believe the ISA is just as strong and a threeway competition or super competition as it has been called would work to benefit all of rugby and aid in the development and retention of talent to the game which i still think is great.
#staysaucymygpspeeps
After reading/viewing the results from the recent trial games between GPS and CAS I must say I was a little disappointed that the ISA teams didn’t get into any of the action. As a proud ISA blogger (please go and have a look at our forum for more insight) I have some potentially controversial statements about the state of your famous competition. The ISA has grown in leaps and bounds over the past few seasons. This growth has been seen in many victories over both GPS and CAS teams (e.g. Stannies vs Shore, Stannies vs Knox). Not to mention GPS teams being too scared to face the music and play the new nursery for wallabies of St. Augustines.
The mouth watering prospect of seeing an ISA vs GPS fixture is beyond me matchups such as Charlie “And the great glass elevator” Rourke vs Donnie “Rolf is a” Freeman, Dom “ Lite n” Easy vs Yool “once again” Yool,” Back in” Bo “river” Abra vs Kyle “technique is anything but” Devine (and lets remember where Easy and Devine were poached from…. You guessed it ISA). However the powers have let me down once more (thanks ARU and my nemesis Bill “Hates grass roots rugby” Pulver) and failed to schedule this fixture. Can anyone give me a reason why? Cause just the thought of this one gets my sauce spicy. I feel this failure in scheduling is emblematic of the larger problem that the ISA has been relegated as a second division competition when it is well and truly up there with you lot. Now I am not saying the ISA is better than your great competition but imagine this match up! It gets my sauces in a heap when it seems to me that both GPS and CAS underestimate the ISA competition. Although I must give credit that the GPS is nowhere near as arrogant as those morons from CAS. So my question is to my fellow schoolboy bloggers why is the ISA competition compared to a third world country????
If you ask me one of the biggest problems with the development of players in this country is the overreliance on the GPS to produce wallabies. Now this isn’t the GPS’ fault but I do feel if you don’t come from a big rich school you don’t have a realistic chance of making it to higher representative honours. For example there is young gentleman from Kinross Donnie “My man crush” Freeman who already has been mentioned in my opinion is the next big thing. He plays 7 and is any absolute weapon yet no one has heard of him because he doesn’t go to Joeys or Riverview. In my opinion this boy is far superior to Rouke but once again he won’t get anywhere because he isn’t involved in the GPS system….
To summarise I believe the ISA is just as strong and a threeway competition or super competition as it has been called would work to benefit all of rugby and aid in the development and retention of talent to the game which i still think is great.
#staysaucymygpspeeps
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Johnnie Wallace (23)
sweetchilli philli
I admire your fiery passion for all things ISA. We can blame the ARU and BP for a lot of things that are wrong with Rugby but not the schoolboy Rugby schedule! Take that one up with the various associations.......
Strength of Rugby schools in the majority is cyclical but the issue for most GPS schools is the lack of depth (number of teams) that ISA schools can field on any given Saturday. Not bashing ISA and would love to see say Joeys V Auggies or Kings V Stannies but scheduling is hard enough now within GPS let alone widening the catchment.
There are only so many trial games that can be scheduled and I believe most GPS supporters and sportsmasters think there have been enough this year!
No doubt there will be some fantastic match ups for rep selection involving ISA, AICES et al. But these will occur in the coming weeks through the Schools Rep programme
I note ISA 1 play CAS 1 and ISA II play AICES on 23 June.
I am sure some of the boys you mention will be in the mix
Think you are being a bit tough claiming the players mentioned were "poached" from the ISA. I also think their Rugby development was not as a result of the ISA Rugby "nursery" of St Pats or Pius. Perhaps individual talent, Club Rugby, SJRU/Country rep pathways and committed parents may have something to add on that topic
I admire your fiery passion for all things ISA. We can blame the ARU and BP for a lot of things that are wrong with Rugby but not the schoolboy Rugby schedule! Take that one up with the various associations.......
Strength of Rugby schools in the majority is cyclical but the issue for most GPS schools is the lack of depth (number of teams) that ISA schools can field on any given Saturday. Not bashing ISA and would love to see say Joeys V Auggies or Kings V Stannies but scheduling is hard enough now within GPS let alone widening the catchment.
There are only so many trial games that can be scheduled and I believe most GPS supporters and sportsmasters think there have been enough this year!
No doubt there will be some fantastic match ups for rep selection involving ISA, AICES et al. But these will occur in the coming weeks through the Schools Rep programme
I note ISA 1 play CAS 1 and ISA II play AICES on 23 June.
I am sure some of the boys you mention will be in the mix
Think you are being a bit tough claiming the players mentioned were "poached" from the ISA. I also think their Rugby development was not as a result of the ISA Rugby "nursery" of St Pats or Pius. Perhaps individual talent, Club Rugby, SJRU/Country rep pathways and committed parents may have something to add on that topic
Rich_E
Ron Walden (29)
2017 GPS Season Preview is now live - check it out
Thanks to all who contributed
http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/2017-nsw-gps-season-preview-2/#disqus_thread
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Thanks to all who contributed
http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/2017-nsw-gps-season-preview-2/#disqus_thread
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Jim Belshaw
Bob Loudon (25)
I will bring up my review of the next thirds round tomorrow or Friday. Hopefully! Meantime, this is the Armidale Express report of the TAS v Iggies match http://www.armidaleexpress.com.au/story/4701013/schoolboys-title-defence-on-track/?cs=472
And this is the Express report Scots v TAS match report http://www.armidaleexpress.com.au/story/4718065/pollards-boot-kicks-a-win/?cs=472
I know that it's local, but at least in one small part of the country people outside the usual suspects are actually following a GPS comp!
And this is the Express report Scots v TAS match report http://www.armidaleexpress.com.au/story/4718065/pollards-boot-kicks-a-win/?cs=472
I know that it's local, but at least in one small part of the country people outside the usual suspects are actually following a GPS comp!
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
Don't ISA have enough problems of their own in relation to the Gregs and Pius scheduling fiasco?
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