WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
Three yellow cards.
2025 Super Rugby Under 16 and 19 series (u16's, 27th Sept - 2nd Nov) (u19's, 13th Sept - 5th Oct)
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Three yellow cards.
The Ghost of Raelene
John Eales (66)
First side to at least punch back at them for a half. Hope they get a kick out of it and absolutely do a biblical job on Victoria in 2 weeks.
Rudderless
John Solomon (38)
HT
Force 24 Brumbies 7
FT
Force 29 Brumbies 19
Some big bodies in the Force. No.8 got himself 2 yellow cards.
Force 24 Brumbies 7
FT
Force 29 Brumbies 19
Some big bodies in the Force. No.8 got himself 2 yellow cards.
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Just to correct for anyone reading.
U16 Super Rugby
NSW 54 d QLD 45
NSW 8 Tries - Chapman 4, Hannon 2, Talakai, Hermann; 7 Conversions - Ruthven 7/8
QLD 7 Tries - Gaffney 3, Goodwin 2, Hill, Robinson; 5 Conversions - Meredith 5/7
HT was NSW 40-7 With Qld scoring the last try.
The Ghost of Raelene
John Eales (66)
Apologies for that one.
At least 4 being an impossible score shouldn’t have stuffed too many
At least 4 being an impossible score shouldn’t have stuffed too many
Rudderless
John Solomon (38)
Rd 4 of 5
U16
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Saturday 18th: Victoria v Brumbies, La Trobe University Sports Field, Bundoora at 1pm (AEDT)
Sunday 19th: Western Force v Reds, Southern Lions RUFC Field 1 at 4pm (AEDT)
Waratahs BYE
U16
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Saturday 18th: Victoria v Brumbies, La Trobe University Sports Field, Bundoora at 1pm (AEDT)
Sunday 19th: Western Force v Reds, Southern Lions RUFC Field 1 at 4pm (AEDT)
Waratahs BYE
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WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
Victoria 31-17 victors over the Brumbies in the U16s. Brumbies led 5-17 going into HT. Similar issue to last week against the Force fading as the 2nd half wore on.
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
I don't want to make it seem like the young Vics weren't the better team in the end. They were. There's a few young blokes worth a scholarship to a school or two up north.
The Ghost of Raelene
John Eales (66)
ACT is well and truly done as a consistent producer of talent and that’s not to talk down Vic who've improved vastly.
It’s a complete recruitment franchise now. They do that extremely well but it’s a much more volatile way to run a Club if NSW and QLD lock up larger numbers which they seem to be.
It’s a complete recruitment franchise now. They do that extremely well but it’s a much more volatile way to run a Club if NSW and QLD lock up larger numbers which they seem to be.
Wilson
Tim Horan (67)
The shorter seasons still leave open significant recruitment opportunities. A longer super season or fully fleshed and professional third tier would really eat into their opportunities to lure guys away at higher levels. Until that happens I don't see them having too much trouble with their current model.
They should otherwise really be looking to formalize pathways from Victoria into the Brumbies while they still exist to hook into, they're most able to start absorbing that talent while it's still unaffiliated and with current success and historic links from guys like Valetini they could set themselves up as the destination of choice very quickly. It would require them investing in the pathway (or getting RA to) long term though).
The Ghost of Raelene
John Eales (66)
It’s a lot more recruiting to do though without a local pool to developing 25% of the squad.
I see a scenario in 10 years time that the Brums have 1-2 ACT raised players in the squad at most. Who knows what the landscape will be in 10 years but if it’s the same as now.
Rugby already has a shrinking player base and it’s a shame. I’d be interested to hear ACT locals thoughts on it from the Club/Schools perspective
I see a scenario in 10 years time that the Brums have 1-2 ACT raised players in the squad at most. Who knows what the landscape will be in 10 years but if it’s the same as now.
Rugby already has a shrinking player base and it’s a shame. I’d be interested to hear ACT locals thoughts on it from the Club/Schools perspective
Wilson
Tim Horan (67)
I think those guys are still there though, you jut don't see 25% manifest every year, it tends to be a lumpy distribution, particularly because of the effect competition has on development.
I can't speak to the local scene, but I imagine the Raiders being on a reasonably good run the last ~5 years probably hasn't helped either, but that seems to be coming to an end and talent local talent might flow back a bit.
The for them biggest issue going forward will be how they continue to set the their own standard and path while under the umbrella of RA, with no free cash and less opportunity to find it.
I can't speak to the local scene, but I imagine the Raiders being on a reasonably good run the last ~5 years probably hasn't helped either, but that seems to be coming to an end and talent local talent might flow back a bit.
The for them biggest issue going forward will be how they continue to set the their own standard and path while under the umbrella of RA, with no free cash and less opportunity to find it.
The Ghost of Raelene
John Eales (66)
I’m not sure it’s the Raiders. That could affect fan engagements more so. Bigger city but will the Broncos hurt Rugby in Brisbane now? I think Leagues overall development is far better though. If true about the Raiders, their recent popularity and basic competitiveness (other than this year 8th is their highest finish in the last 5 seasons) Would have a bunch of players coming through to maintained competitiveness for the next 5+
I’ve just seen a decline in the standard of sides that come to Sydney from the traditional Schools like Eddie’s, Marist, Grammar for the last decade. Was never the same standard but it was a contested game between 1st, 2nd XVs but now I think some would be 3rd XV and the best probably a 2nd XV standard.
I’ve just seen a decline in the standard of sides that come to Sydney from the traditional Schools like Eddie’s, Marist, Grammar for the last decade. Was never the same standard but it was a contested game between 1st, 2nd XVs but now I think some would be 3rd XV and the best probably a 2nd XV standard.
Red Runner
Darby Loudon (17)
what the hell do you mean by now?? I mean how much more hurt could they do? They control the media up here already. All the politicians are leaguies and jump on the Broncos bandwagon. Suncorp is basically their ground. They’ve got a bunch of players who went to private schools the so called traditional domain of rugby. Oh and they’re worth over $100M !!! As a club!! It’s bloody incredible rugby has any presence up here at all.
“Now”. …..
The Ghost of Raelene
John Eales (66)
Should say even more then?
Wilson
Tim Horan (67)
The major difference between Brisbane and Canberra is that Brisbane (or SEQ more accurately) is still a net exporter of talent, and there's more than enough coming through each year for both the Reds and Broncos, at least in a general sense. That doesn't look like the case for Canberra, where the population is significantly smaller - about 1/6th of Brisbane's. To put that in real terms, Brisbane has about as many kids 14 and under (~450k) as Canberra has people total. Obviously they're not all rugby players or will be candidates for a super side, but we're talking completely different scales where the limitation in Brisbane is as much opportunity as it is talent supply. In that context than success in either code should help the talent pool for both, drawing young kids into rugby in general, from there plenty of the best ones will end up being exposed to both games and can be picked up by either.
On the fan side I don't actually think the Raider's success hurts the Brumbies too much, there aren't that many people making either or decisions and the Brumbies have been going well consistently so shouldn't suffer in comparison. I do hold a similar view for Brisbane though, were the status quo is fairly stable and the fight for column inches isn't new (dual Broncos and Lions success might be more of an issue though). Cost of living issues may be changing that slightly, but there are opportunities too - Reds and Dolphins did a dual ticket this year and I think the Brumbies and Raiders might have done the same?
If I'm right about the Raider's (relative) success hurting the Brumbies development pipeline then it does follow that impact on development is going to lag a bit - I'm mostly talking about the 19 and 20 seasons here (so a little outside of 5 year) where they ran 4th and 5th and seemed to capture the local interest with the whole Viking clap thing. That's when a bunch of ~10 year olds might have been lured one way or the other, and we'd be just starting to see it now in the under 16s. This is wildly speculative on my part though, I have no idea what the local scene has been doing. AFL might also be eating into the talent base there, I get the feeling they've been starting to snap up a bit of the talent via GWS pathways.
Border Aloe
Frank Row (1)
Enjoyed watching the Brumbies vs Victoria game yesterday, with the game close till the end.
Will be interesting to see the Force and Reds packs take each other on today, feels like a semifinal match. Looks to be cooler conditions over in the West…..
Will be interesting to see the Force and Reds packs take each other on today, feels like a semifinal match. Looks to be cooler conditions over in the West…..
Rudderless
John Solomon (38)
FT
Reds 24-12
Reds 24-12