All Blacks tour of South Africa
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Tony Shaw (54)
Maybe he had a tough upbringing, but to only get four weeks for a tackle that nearly broke a players neck is a very poor reflection on the judiciary.
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Chris McKivat (8)
1) I agree on Arendse. Sometimes, the greatest danger is posed not by the malicious, but by the blind exuberance. BB could easily have broken his neck. Of course Arendse didn't mean to take BB out, but neither did he at any point consider any level of safety.
2) On Vermeulen coming back, good grief. The Boks are loaded with enough loosies to form a team of just loosies. The proven WC winners aside, there's still Fourie, Louw, Roos, Coetzee, Van Staden, the Du Preez brothers, Elstart where does this end? Also, is Duane still first choice at the end of it all?
Also, so much talent in the props. It's a little surprising that Nyakane has shifted to loosehead, but he was good.
And between Marx and Mbonagmbi, sure Marx has to be the starting hooker? I thought he has been the better hooker since the WC.
2) On Vermeulen coming back, good grief. The Boks are loaded with enough loosies to form a team of just loosies. The proven WC winners aside, there's still Fourie, Louw, Roos, Coetzee, Van Staden, the Du Preez brothers, Elstart where does this end? Also, is Duane still first choice at the end of it all?
Also, so much talent in the props. It's a little surprising that Nyakane has shifted to loosehead, but he was good.
And between Marx and Mbonagmbi, sure Marx has to be the starting hooker? I thought he has been the better hooker since the WC.
KiwiM
Trevor Allan (34)
It's mid-range 8 weeks with the standard 50% reduction to 4 games. Typically suspensions are 6 weeks low range 50% reduction down to 3 weeks.
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Bokke make five changes:
Damian Willemse, Jesse Kriel, Lukhanyo Am, Damian de Allende, Makazole Mapimpi, Handre Pollard, Jaden Hendrikse; Duane Vermeulen, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Siya Kolisi (capt), Lood de Jager, Eben Etzebeth, Frans Malherbe, Bongi Mbonambi, Ox Nche. Reserves: Malcolm Marx, Steven Kitshoff, Vincent Koch, Franco Mostert, Jasper Wiese, Kwagga Smith, Hershel Jantjies, Willie le Roux.
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Hurld reports that Will Jordan has a tummy bag & didn't train yesterday. JBar trained but with a heavily-strapped ankle & didn't do any kicking. Beaugan was on tv saying his neck was all good. Team naming late tomorrow NZ time.
Damian Willemse, Jesse Kriel, Lukhanyo Am, Damian de Allende, Makazole Mapimpi, Handre Pollard, Jaden Hendrikse; Duane Vermeulen, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Siya Kolisi (capt), Lood de Jager, Eben Etzebeth, Frans Malherbe, Bongi Mbonambi, Ox Nche. Reserves: Malcolm Marx, Steven Kitshoff, Vincent Koch, Franco Mostert, Jasper Wiese, Kwagga Smith, Hershel Jantjies, Willie le Roux.
Hammer time as Duane Vermeulen returns to Springboks lineup to face All Blacks
Springboks coach Jacques Nienaber has made five changes to his 23 to face the All Blacks in the second Rugby Championship test at Ellis Park.
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Hurld reports that Will Jordan has a tummy bag & didn't train yesterday. JBar trained but with a heavily-strapped ankle & didn't do any kicking. Beaugan was on tv saying his neck was all good. Team naming late tomorrow NZ time.
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Dan54
Tim Horan (67)
I actually wonder if there been something wrong with Jordan for a while WOB, he just not the Jordan we have seen over the past.Bokke make five changes:
Damian Willemse, Jesse Kriel, Lukhanyo Am, Damian de Allende, Makazole Mapimpi, Handre Pollard, Jaden Hendrikse; Duane Vermeulen, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Siya Kolisi (capt), Lood de Jager, Eben Etzebeth, Frans Malherbe, Bongi Mbonambi, Ox Nche. Reserves: Malcolm Marx, Steven Kitshoff, Vincent Koch, Franco Mostert, Jasper Wiese, Kwagga Smith, Hershel Jantjies, Willie le Roux.
Hammer time as Duane Vermeulen returns to Springboks lineup to face All Blacks
Springboks coach Jacques Nienaber has made five changes to his 23 to face the All Blacks in the second Rugby Championship test at Ellis Park.
Hurld reports that Will Jordan has a tummy bag & didn't train yesterday. JBar trained but with a heavily-strapped ankle & didn't do any kicking. Beaugan was on tv saying his neck was all good. Team naming late tomorrow NZ time.
KiwiM
Trevor Allan (34)
There's a bit of difference between playing fullback for the Crusaders machine and playing wing for this AB team which is an absolute rabble. He still looks dangerous when he gets put in the right positions (see his try in Wellington and the run he had on the weekend where he got ankle tapped).
It's very difficult for a winger to shine in this system (i'm not even sure you could call it a system?) - the attack doesn't open up space for our dangerous ball runners nearly enough - apart from the odd nice in ball (see the breaks mentioned above) - it's basically just given to them with very little room and asking them to make something out of nothing.
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Tim Horan (67)
Will take that up to a point, but really apart from a 20 second burst in test in Wellington, he has done nothing, he looks quite lost or disinterested, well I thought in particular in Wellington where I was watching him quite a bit for a whaile trying to see him do something. I am struggling to remember him chasing a kick or actually jumping to receive a kick, or even going looking for ball. I know he miles better than that, and still think he seems not to good. In saying that he didn't go very good against Boks last year.
KiwiM
Trevor Allan (34)
I hear what you are saying - I guess my point is that I would put the blame on the current AB set up. I reckon a new coaching set up would quickly get Jordan humming.
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
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Simon Poidevin (60)
I reckon having the 2 Barrett bros and their completely unreadable backyard agenda cluttering up his backfield has given him the yips.
Remember that Cantabs try late this season where Bridge put the chip and chase kick up and WJ swooped over from behind the midfield and basically totally cockblocked Bridge with a "yeah nah nice kick bud but we both know you're not good enough to finish off the move pal" and casually retrieved the kick and scored the try?
No way would he try that in this AB's setup
Dismal Pillock
Simon Poidevin (60)
Fozzie, seen here frantically searching Wayne
Smith's old playbooks for the Cunning Plan.
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Mbonambi injured at training & won't play, replaced by Joseph Dweba who has two previous caps. Marx remains on the bench.
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Springboks make late reshuffle after hooker Bongi Mbonambi ruled out for Ellis Park
Knee injury at training forces South Africa coach Jacques Nienaber to rejig his front row to face the All Blacks at Ellis Park.
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John Thornett (49)
Mbonambi injured at training & won't play, replaced by Joseph Dweba who has two previous caps. Marx remains on the bench.
Springboks make late reshuffle after hooker Bongi Mbonambi ruled out for Ellis Park
Knee injury at training forces South Africa coach Jacques Nienaber to rejig his front row to face the All Blacks at Ellis Park.
Does anyone else find this absolutely mind boggling?????????
Derpus
George Gregan (70)
Using their best pack at the business end of the game. He still gets 40 mins.
Slim 293
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Nah, they've been using their "Bomb Squad" off the bench with good success in recent years...
And they sometimes get more minutes than the starters, like Kitschoff lcoming on in the first half last week.
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John Thornett (49)
I get the bomb squad but he's the best in the world give him 60 min this week & the AB's prob wont score
Slim 293
Stirling Mortlock (74)
He might get 60 mins... off the bench.
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