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Australia v Argentina, Sept 14th in Perth

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Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Crowd: 18,124

Perth should never host a test again.... disgraceful... rabble rabble rabble... etc etc...

Another few thousand ticket holders would probably have stayed at home or gone to the pub/club being warned off by the weather.
 

No4918

John Hipwell (52)
Absolute bullshit. White had a good game and I am happy to see him stay on and not have Genia on the field meerkatting and yelling at his own team mates like his own shit doesn't stink.

And I am a red fanboi.

This state rivalry thing has to stop, so why don't you be the adult around here and drop it yourself?

Not likely. This poster was making very similar comments last week as well.
 

GaffaCHinO

Peter Sullivan (51)
Therenqas 30k last year for the saffa it was dumb to play the pumas in perth half of sa live in perth couple that with how shit subi is to watch rugby (lots of ppl refuse to go there for rugby) add in the weather 19k+ isnt bad. The weather was as bad as the game against scotland.

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Moono75

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That game summed up rugby in this country.

Shit crowd, no atmosphere. Uninspired performance by a team with 0 ability to execute with any sort of consistency.

We need a new tight 5 before the world cup.
donr give us shit fixtures
 

Garryowen

Larry Dwyer (12)
Nothing to get excited about.

Scrum still embarrassingly shit. Last scrum of the night was good though - new front row and Timani behind...

The pack is just depressing:
Slipper - cannot scrum. Bottleneck in the backline.
Moore - new scrum laws do not suit. Rest of his game has turned to shit, ie errors, penalties, missed tackles
Alexander - cannot scrum.
Simmons - no mongrel. Penalty and error magnet
Douglas - anonymous
Fardy - solid player, but not a ball running option
Hooper - great player, but light weight
Mowen -line out general, but that's about it. Journeyman.

Looking forward to the return of Pocock, Palu, Higgers, Nau and Horwill.

Robbo needs to be reinstated. Timani also needs to start, despite all his shortcomings.

Skelton to be fast tracked via the spring tour.

And a global search to be undertake for a decent tight head prop.
 

hughbert

Herbert Moran (7)
Not likely. This poster was making very similar comments last week as well.


If there isn't at least one reds fan calling for genia's promotion to the XV I will leave the forum for good.

The discussion through the week was around me being informed that the halves didn't matter since the forwards were so shit. "Deckchairs on the titanic" I think it was described as.

Do you not think White had an appreciable positive impact on the outcome that Genia likely would not have had?
 

FairWeatherAussie

Ted Fahey (11)
the glaring difference tonight (and this is principally due to White) is that the wallabies played smart rugby by sticking to a position game rather than a possession game. that will go unnoticed by the reds fanbois though, who will all want genia back because he's now hungry and motivated or something
Amen to the first part of that. I'm glad McKenzie decided to 'dumb' down the game plan a bit and kick it out of our 22 instead of running it...

That said, I feel a bit of sympathy towards Link. He has taken over the reigns (spelling?) at the same time as the new scrum laws have taken effect. And despite the idiot commentary, their main influence has been to take a lot of the shenanigans out of the scrum and award the stronger team, which certainly isn't us. In that second half did we win something like one from 4 or 5 on our own feed and almost gave away a penalty a feed for each of the Argentinians? We are pretty much going into games with a 20 point handicap on scrums alone. Until we can fix that the rest of our game is pretty much secondary.
 

Blake

Ted Fahey (11)
Re State rivalry - I think its good for Aust rugby, especially with the super rugby derby system; It just creates more interest. In terms of people getting angry on internet forums about too many players getting picked from one side....well I'm confident that has no real world implications.
 

Bowside

Peter Johnson (47)
I just don't understand why Slipper is playing LH. He's going to have to specialise with the new rules and he plays TH for the reds most of the year why change his side for the wallabies.

The wallabies only hope of success is Horwill, Pocock, Higginbotham staying fit for an extended period, and Skelton+Pyle developing into a test standard players. And all of it has to happen soon....
 

Gnostic

Mark Ella (57)
Surely now the coaching staff are going to look at the scrum technique of the players. As predicted the changing of players (Alexander for Kepu) did nothing to address the fundamental issues.

One thing I hope the IRB does address is the calling of the feed. Obviously thought of with good intentions but the unintended consequence is the the non-feeding team is being overly advantaged in timing their push instead of waiting for the actual feed they shove on the call. I would rather just see the ref silent and warn the 9s if they delay the feed. If it is delayed again then free kick them, there will be no more delays.

Apart from that one aspect I am loving seeing the scrums return to a true scrummaging contest when the ball is actually in play.
 

hughbert

Herbert Moran (7)
Surely now the coaching staff are going to look at the scrum technique of the players. As predicted the changing of players (Alexander for Kepu) did nothing to address the fundamental issues.

One thing I hope the IRB does address is the calling of the feed. Obviously thought of with good intentions but the unintended consequence is the the non-feeding team is being overly advantaged in timing their push instead of waiting for the actual feed they shove on the call. I would rather just see the ref silent and warn the 9s if they delay the feed. If it is delayed again then free kick them, there will be no more delays.

Apart from that one aspect I am loving seeing the scrums return to a true scrummaging contest when the ball is actually in play.


I have not yet figured out what's wrong with the half putting the ball in after "set".

I'd hoped the new laws would reduce the role of the refs in the scrums. Not so far.
 

Gnostic

Mark Ella (57)
Nothing to get excited about.

Scrum still embarrassingly shit. Last scrum of the night was good though - new front row and Timani behind.

The pack is just depressing:
Slipper - cannot scrum. Bottleneck in the backline.
Moore - new scrum laws do not suit. Rest of his game has turned to shit, ie errors, penalties, missed tackles
Alexander - cannot scrum.
Simmons - no mongrel. Penalty and error magnet
Douglas - anonymous
Fardy - solid player, but not a ball running option
Hooper - great player, but light weight
Mowen -line out general, but that's about it. Journeyman.

Looking forward to the return of Pocock, Palu, Higgers, Nau and Horwill.

Robbo needs to be reinstated. Timani also needs to start, despite all his shortcomings.

Skelton to be fast tracked via the spring tour.

And a global search to be undertake for a decent tight head prop.

Was the last scrum good because they improved or because the starting Argie front and second row had been replaced?

As for recalling Robinson, he looked like he was attempting to live up to his nickname in the Woodies game, he was thicker through the waist than across the shoulders. I am not singling him out in this, but most Australian Frontrowers appear overweight when compared to their international opposition. The Uni front rowers appeared much trimmer than the woodies (excepting the backrower turned hooker Roach?)
 

Gnostic

Mark Ella (57)
I have not yet figured out what's wrong with the half putting the ball in after "set".

I'd hoped the new laws would reduce the role of the refs in the scrums. Not so far.

Apparently the scrum has to be deemed to be square and steady first, hence the ref call. I think you agree that there is no need for the call at all and the half can determine the timing of the feed, and I agree that I had hoped to see less intervention being needed.
 
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