Bullrush
Geoff Shaw (53)
Ardie Savea is a beast. Had a huge 2019 and was one of the ABs best in 2020. Might have had a slow start coming back from injury but he is world class.
Bledisloe III at Perth, 5/09/21 - 4pm AEST
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Derpus
Phil Waugh (73)
He is definitely not a beast at test level and is certainly not world class. He doesnt get near a world 23.
dru
David Wilson (68)
Kerevi, Paisami, Daugunu, Koroibete - think we'll be alright. Add Petaia, and Ikitau. The opportunities are there if they are engineered in the set piece.
Bullrush
Geoff Shaw (53)
Sure - the guy who was nominated for World Best Player and won the All Black Best Player Award less than 2yrs ago is not world class.
Tomikin
Michael Lynagh (62)
Fuck off with the 3rd string froggies, there first string isn't any better then the team they sent... I dont get why you keep banging on about 3rd string... we could say it was our 3rd string as well with all our injuries..
Tomikin
Michael Lynagh (62)
Dropping white are you ?
Dan54
David Wilson (68)
Well I been trying to work out who my AB team would be , will they go for same, but just replace 3 missing players? Or go well we got to make changes ,so let's go for it.
Personally I would go for same pack, with Scott barret in for Big Sam , and I would like Vai'i on the bench, but will probably get PT.
Backline is where it get's interesting ,with Nuggett being out changes our style of play quite a bit I think.
I guess it will be TJP and BB, hope they stick with Havili at 12, but then will they go for ALB or Reiko at 13 (ALB for me), and then it opens up wings between Reece, Jordan and Reiko. May even see Jordie to 15 so DMac is fresh on bench to cover 10-15. Perhap Weber on bench with whoever misses out of the backs I just talked about?
As I said we maybe forced into different game plan, as we missing the top 3 players and drivers of game plan from last test. Sure as buggery TJP or Weber are not going to be giving the ball as quick to backline that Nugget does
Personally I would go for same pack, with Scott barret in for Big Sam , and I would like Vai'i on the bench, but will probably get PT.
Backline is where it get's interesting ,with Nuggett being out changes our style of play quite a bit I think.
I guess it will be TJP and BB, hope they stick with Havili at 12, but then will they go for ALB or Reiko at 13 (ALB for me), and then it opens up wings between Reece, Jordan and Reiko. May even see Jordie to 15 so DMac is fresh on bench to cover 10-15. Perhap Weber on bench with whoever misses out of the backs I just talked about?
As I said we maybe forced into different game plan, as we missing the top 3 players and drivers of game plan from last test. Sure as buggery TJP or Weber are not going to be giving the ball as quick to backline that Nugget does
upthereds#!
Peter Johnson (47)
I think 2nd string would be more accurate, but that would be a 2nd XV, not a 2nd 23, just as we, disregarding all restrictions and injuruies, could have fielded a team about 33% 'better'
I agree with you in that the teams were far closer then what many are saying in regards to Australia top team vs French 3rd team.
BUT saying that I think come the End of year tests we will see quite a lot of the French Tourists moved up into the Top choice French 23
Derpus
Phil Waugh (73)
The 'France are the best and have amazing depth' is straight up propaganda. They are just getting cnuts interested to sell RWC tickets. They haven't won the 6 nations since 2010 and went out of RWC19 to Wales ffs.
For a team who is going to win the next world cup and could field three different teams that would beat the Wallabies they sure do suck.
For a team who is going to win the next world cup and could field three different teams that would beat the Wallabies they sure do suck.
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
Yes, somewhat reluctantly, but I think Nic is a starter if Rennie wants a kicking, territory game, but otherwise go with the two more attacking No 9s.
KOB1987
John Eales (66)
No one is claiming they are the best. However those claiming there isn’t a lot of difference between their top side and their second side are right. It wasn’t their third string side we played, most of their past regulars weren’t there and a few of their second stringers weren’t either, but realistically it was probably about their A+ side. From a development perspective they were at a similar stage to us, with a lot of their players from the U20s final a couple of years ago also in their side. And they’re ranked higher than us.
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
Really, really good 7 & if Foster were to pick him there & make him stand-in captain I'd have no problem with that. But he's not an 8 (nor a 6) & that's my problem with Foster as a selector, instead of picking the best player in each position in some cases he wants the best player capable of playing that position. Hence ASav at 8, AL-B occasionally at 12 & to a slightly lesser degree DMac at 15. In ASav's case I think his shortcomings at 8 are made more apparent by the way they're utilising Akira's strengths in the wider channels.
tragic
John Solomon (38)
Who cares? My point was lolesio has performed ok at super level and against a lower standard of opposition but has struggled to perform against better sides. It had nothing to do with whether we were full strength or not.
I think White is better in every way, Gordon is White lite.
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
Nick White is an Eastwood product. Gordon is not.
Derpus
Phil Waugh (73)
He has failed to perform against one side, the All Blacks. You can count the number of strong 10 performances against the ABs from the last decade on one hand.
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
And have a couple of fingers left over D.