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Tim Horan (67)
You must live in Melbourne.
Teh Other Dave
Alan Cameron (40)
I wonder when the ARU will release some information.
Maybe they'll wait until later tonight so they can miss the evening news.
The wait is getting frustrating. Plenty at stake.
Maybe they'll wait until later tonight so they can miss the evening news.
The wait is getting frustrating. Plenty at stake.
T
Train Without a Station
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I'm sick of reading about ex-players chiming in with comments along the lines of if Link sacks Kurtley it's at his own peril.
Either he has done nothing wrong and nothing changes, or he is in the wrong, and he's done. I don't care how popular he is or how great he has been with the Waratahs, that's irrelevant to the issue. Much like if he was the least popular member of the touring party and had been woeful all year that would not be relevant to the topic.
Either he has done nothing wrong and nothing changes, or he is in the wrong, and he's done. I don't care how popular he is or how great he has been with the Waratahs, that's irrelevant to the issue. Much like if he was the least popular member of the touring party and had been woeful all year that would not be relevant to the topic.
The ex-players only comment about it because they have regularly scheduled media appearances and it's the biggest issue in Australian rugby right now (Phil Waugh was on Foxsports News or something this morning which is where his comments today come from).
From what most of the players are saying (including Waugh), there's a whole lot more to this than just Kurtley Beale.
This could either end up being a non-event or it could be just about the most dramatic issue in Australian rugby in recent years. So hard to know how it's going to play out.
So many potential factors and repercussions for the ARU to consider.
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Train Without a Station
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I'd like to hear one ex-player talk about maintaining standards and team culture. They'd have to look back a few years to find somebody with a bit to offer on that topic though.
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Jim Lenehan (48)
On the 'gender' issue, you should've heard the silly tirade by Rebecca Wilson on SEN radio the other day. Wilson says something to the effect "what other footy code has a woman handing out discipline to players". So whilst there are little (if any) real facts out there, Wilson just wanted to shoot her mouth off. Just the whole tone of it was appalling.
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David Codey (61)
It frustrates me,because anyone who has spent more than 10 seconds on the topic,knows it's no longer Link's call,it's out of his hands.
Brumby Jack
Steve Williams (59)
This arvo at 4, hopefully all will be revealed!
There we go.
Bill Pulver will speak about the issue at 4pm.
Bill Pulver will speak about the issue at 4pm.
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
Although there were plenty of conspiracy theories in the middle part of the thread
ACT Crusader
Jim Lenehan (48)
What really can be expected at the Pulver 4pm presser?
Pulver: Kurtley will face an ARU judiciary over an incident that occurred on tour
Journos: What was the nature of the incident?
Pulver: It is not appropriate to discuss the incident whilst the judiciary process plays out?
Journos: There has been much speculation about an exchange between Kurtley and Ms Patston.
Pulver: well, you know, there's always going to rumour and speculation. Its best we allow the judiciary process to take its course?
Journos: will Beale be sacked?
Pulver: I do not want to pre-empt any outcome of that hearing
Pulver: Kurtley will face an ARU judiciary over an incident that occurred on tour
Journos: What was the nature of the incident?
Pulver: It is not appropriate to discuss the incident whilst the judiciary process plays out?
Journos: There has been much speculation about an exchange between Kurtley and Ms Patston.
Pulver: well, you know, there's always going to rumour and speculation. Its best we allow the judiciary process to take its course?
Journos: will Beale be sacked?
Pulver: I do not want to pre-empt any outcome of that hearing
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Michael Lynagh (62)
Possibly could be an early ruling on weather or not he's available for Bledisloe 3, or could mention if others will also face the judiciary or just Beale. But yeah it seems like the sorry of thing that could have been done in a release, rather than a conference.
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
Managers are a dime a dozen. Rugby players good enough to play a lot of Tests for their country are a rare commodity.
Beale might well be a difficult person to manage. But that's what managers get paid for.
The brightest talent who ever worked for me was a nasty, difficult little prick. He was a Cambridge graduate who had worked for Arthur Andersen, and he had an ego the size of Texas. But I managed him.
He said to me one day "It's the grit in the oyster that creates the pearl".
I hope Pulver knows something about how to manage talented people.
Beale might well be a difficult person to manage. But that's what managers get paid for.
The brightest talent who ever worked for me was a nasty, difficult little prick. He was a Cambridge graduate who had worked for Arthur Andersen, and he had an ego the size of Texas. But I managed him.
He said to me one day "It's the grit in the oyster that creates the pearl".
I hope Pulver knows something about how to manage talented people.
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Train Without a Station
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That's all well and good Wameral, but no successful team allows it's players to not fall in line.
Link has a proven track record of getting the very best out of players who have not shown much prior or for a long time (Quade Cooper, Beau Robinson, Radike Samo, Adam Wallace-Harrison, Anthony Fainga'a just to name a few).
The team has to be bigger than any individual, regardless of how good they are. No player is good enough to carry a team that cannot play like a team due to a poor culture.
Link has a proven track record of getting the very best out of players who have not shown much prior or for a long time (Quade Cooper, Beau Robinson, Radike Samo, Adam Wallace-Harrison, Anthony Fainga'a just to name a few).
The team has to be bigger than any individual, regardless of how good they are. No player is good enough to carry a team that cannot play like a team due to a poor culture.
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Ken Catchpole (46)
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