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Non-Wallaby November Internationals

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Ron Walden (29)
I really fancy England's chances to knock off two of Australia, the Boks and the ABs. Rewatching some of their 6N games on YouTube, especially the Wales game at Twickenham, they look like a really strong team heading into 2015. Stuart Lancaster deserves a lot of credit for bringing the team together. Probably unlucky to not win the 6 Nations this year. Won't happen in time for November, but I'd like to see Lancaster give Sam Burgess a run sometime before the RWC (provided he shows form for Bath). Would be an awesome force at 8, or even in the centres with Luther Burrell.


Mark Ella (57)
From the NZ team thread.


Dane Coles (Wellington, 24 Tests)
Nathan Harris (Bay of Plenty, 1)
Keven Mealamu (Auckland, 120)

Wyatt Crockett (Canterbury, 33)
Charlie Faumuina (Auckland, 22)
Ben Franks (Hawke's Bay, 37)
Owen Franks (Canterbury, 63)
Joe Moody (Canterbury, 5)

Brodie Retallick (Bay of Plenty, 33)
Luke Romano (Canterbury, 16)
Jeremy Thrush (Wellington, 4)
Patrick Tuipulotu (Auckland, 5)
Samuel Whitelock (Canterbury, 60)

Loose Forwards
Sam Cane (Bay of Plenty, 21)
Jerome Kaino (Auckland, 54)
Richie McCaw – captain (Canterbury, 134)
Liam Messam (Waikato, 35)
Kieran Read (Canterbury, 69)
Victor Vito (Wellington, 24)


TJ Perenara (Wellington, 7)
Augustine Pulu (Counties Manukau *)
Aaron Smith (Manawatu, 36)

First five-eighths
Beauden Barrett (Taranaki, 25)
Daniel Carter (Canterbury, 100)
Aaron Cruden (Manawatu, 35)

Ryan Crotty (Canterbury, 9)
Malakai Fekitoa (Auckland, 6)
Conrad Smith (Wellington, 83)
Sonny Bill Williams (Counties Manukau, 19)

Outside backs
Israel Dagg (Hawke's Bay, 43)
Cory Jane (Wellington 52)

Charles Piutau (Auckland, 11)
Julian Savea (Wellington, 28)
Ben Smith (Otago, 35)


Mark Ella (57)
Scotland Squad named, Gilchrist to captain.

FORWARDS: Adam Ashe (Glasgow Warriors), Johnnie Beattie (Castres), Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors), Blair Cowan, Geoff Cross (both London Irish), Alasdair Dickinson, Ross Ford (both Edinburgh Rugby), Chris Fusaro (Glasgow Warriors), Grant Gilchrist CAPTAIN (Edinburgh Rugby), Robert Harley, Jonny Gray (both Glasgow Warriors), Richie Gray (Castres), Scott Lawson (Newcastle Falcons), Kieran Low (London Irish), Euan Murray, Gordon Reid (both Glasgow Warriors) Alasdair Strokosch (USA Perpignan), Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors).

BACKS: Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors), Chris Cusiter (Sale Sharks), Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors), Dougie Fife, Tom Heathcote (both Edinburgh Rugby), Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors), Greig Laidlaw (Gloucester), Sean Lamont, Sean Maitland, Finn Russell, Henry Pyrgos, Tommy Seymour (all Glasgow Warriors), Duncan Taylor (Saracens), Tim Visser (Edinburgh Rugby), Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors).

Not considered through injury: David Denton (returning from injury, Edinburgh Rugby), Ryan Grant (returning from injury, Glasgow Warriors), Ruaridh Jackson (knee, London Wasps), Ross Rennie (knee, Bristol Rugby), Matt Scott (shoulder, Edinburgh Rugby), Jon Welsh, Ryan Wilson (both returning from injury, Glasgow Warriors).
17 Warriors, 6 Gunners, 3 French Exiles, 7 English Exiles.

No Kelly Brown, Jim Hamilton, Pat MacArthur, Dougie Hall, Moray Low, John Barclay, Max Evans or Al Kellock. First few calls by Vern Cotter have been made.

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
Staff member
NZ Maori Squad announced:
Maori All Blacks squad
Joe Royal - Bay of Plenty
Ash Dixon - Hawke's Bay
Codie Taylor* - Canterbury

Chris Eves - Manawatu
Mike Kainga* - Bay of Plenty
Nicholas Barrett - Auckland
Brendon Edmonds*- Hawke's Bay

Tom Franklin* -Otago
Joseph Wheeler - Tasman

Loose forwards
Shane Christie (vc) - Tasman
Blade Thomson - Taranaki
Liam Squire - Tasman
Elliot Dixon - Southland
Sean Polwart* - Auckland
Dan Pryor* - Northland

Jamison Gibson-Park - Taranaki
Chris Smylie- Taranaki

First five-eighths
Ihaia West -Hawke's Bay
Marty McKenzie* - Taranaki

Midfield backs
Jason Emery* - Manawatu
Charlie Ngatai (c) - Taranaki
James Lowe* -Tasman

Outside backs
Matt Proctor - Wellington
Kurt Baker - Taranaki
Joe Webber* -Waikato
Nehe Milner-Skudder* - Manawatu
Robbie Robinson - North Harbour

* New caps

NZ Maori vs Japan in Singapore has been called off due to concerns over the playing surface in Singapore's National Stadium.

waiopehu oldboy

Phil Waugh (73)
No Kane Hames. Can't find any reference to him being injured so presumably he's out of favour which is kinda weird 'cos he was one of our better Super Rugby props. Given he's 26 & hasn't followed The Pathway his shot at the big time may have come & gone.

EDIT: in not entirely unexpected news, "New Zealand Maori have pulled out of their match against the Asia Pacific Dragons due to concerns over the safety of the playing surface at Singapore's national stadium."



Mark Ella (57)
Wales named. No Adam Jones or Hook. Both fair enough calls.

Tightheads: Aaron Jarvis (Ospreys), Samson Lee (Scarlets), Rhodri Jones (Scarlets)

Locks: Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys), Jake Ball (Scarlets), Bradley Davies (Wasps), Luke Charteris (Racing Metro)

Flankers: Dan Lydiate (Racing Metro), James King (Ospreys), Sam Warburton (Cardiff Blues, CAPT), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys)

No. 8's: Dan Baker (Ospreys), Taulupe Faletau (Dragons)

Scrum-halves: Mike Phillips (Racing Metro), Rhys Webb (Ospreys), Rhodri Williams (Scarlets)

Fly-halves: Dan Biggar (Ospreys), Rhys Priestland (Scarlets)

Centres: Cory Allen (Cardiff Blues), James Roberts (Racing Metro), Jonathan Davies (ASM Clermont Auvergne), Scott Williams (Scarlets)

Wings: Hallam Amos (Dragons), Alex Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues), George North (Northampton Saints), Tom Prydie (Dragons)

Full-backs: Leigh Halfpenny (Toulon), Liam Williams (Scarlets).


Mark Ella (57)
Ireland named.

Backs (16):

Tommy Bowe (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster) 54
Gordon D'Arcy (Lansdowne/Leinster) 79
Craig Gilroy (Dungannon/Ulster) 5
Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Connacht) 3
Felix Jones (Shannon/Munster) 6
Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster) 55
Ian Keatley (Young Munster/Munster) 2
Darragh Leader (Galwegians/Connacht) *
Ian Madigan (Blackrock/Leinster) 10
Kieran Marmion (Galwegians/Connacht) 2
Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster) 28
Stuart Olding (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster) 1
Jared Payne (Ulster) *
Eoin Reddan (Lansdowne/Leinster) 55
Jonathan Sexton (Racing Metro 92) 45
Simon Zebo (Cork Constitution/Munster) 8

Forwards (21):

Stephen Archer (Cork Constitution/Munster) 2
Rodney Ah You (Corinthians/Connacht) 1
Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster) 77
James Cronin (Dolphin/Munster) 1
Sean Cronin (St. Mary's College/Leinster) 35
Robbie Diack (Malone/Ulster) 1
Dave Foley (UL Bohemians/Munster) *
Chris Henry (Malone/Ulster) 16
Jamie Heaslip (Naas/Leinster) 67
Dave Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster) 10
Mike McCarthy (Lansdowne/Leinster) 15
Jack McGrath (St. Mary's College/Leinster) 10
Paul O'Connell (Young Munster/Munster) (capt) 94
Tommy O'Donnell (UL Bohemians/Munster) 4
Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster) 23
Mike Ross (Clontarf/Leinster) 41
Rhys Ruddock (St. Mary's College/Leinster) 3
Dominic Ryan (Lansdowne/Leinster) *
Richardt Strauss (Old Wesley/Leinster) 4
Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster) 17
Nathan White (Galwegians/Connacht) *


Dick Tooth (41)
Adam Jones is finished, he's been shocking since the new scrummaging laws came in. Wales will be worried their whole game depends on a strong set piece and now they are relying on the Scarlets tight head.

Surprised that Paddy Jackson has been left out. Ian Madigan is obviously in there as utility cover. Hoping for Olding at 13 but I suspect will see Payne for 2 games and Henshaw for 1.


Mark Ella (57)
Here comes Engerland. A few unlucky to miss, a few very lucky yo be there, especially 36.

Loose-head props

Joe Marler (Harlequins) Matt Mullan (Wasps)

Tight-head props

Kieran Brookes (Newcastle Falcons) David Wilson (Bath Rugby)


Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints) Rob Webber (Bath Rugby)


Dave Attwood (Bath Rugby) George Kruis (Saracens) Joe Launchbury (Wasps) Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints)

Back rows

Calum Clark (Northampton Saints) James Haskell (Wasps) Ben Morgan (Gloucester Rugby) Chris Robshaw (Harlequins, captain) Billy Vunipola (Saracens) Tom Wood (Northampton Saints)

Scrum halves

Danny Care (Harlequins) Lee Dickson (Northampton Saints) Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

Fly halves

Owen Farrell (Saracens) George Ford (Bath Rugby) Stephen Myler (Northampton Saints)


Brad Barritt (Saracens) Luther Burrell (Northampton Saints) Kyle Eastmond (Bath Rugby) Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby) Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester Rugby)

Back threes

Mike Brown (Harlequins) Alex Goode (Saracens) Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby) Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs) Semesa Rokoduguni (Bath Rugby) Marland Yarde (Harlequins)


Jim Clark (26)
Here comes Engerland. A few unlucky to miss, a few very lucky yo be there, especially 36.

Just back from a trip to visit the family, went back to Kingsholm for the first time in a while - a bloody great game against the tigers but Twelvetrees came off early so didnt really get to see him. Eastmond would be starting 12 if fit anyway.
Seems a few Exeter boys have missed out due to being at a "smaller" club but May looks like he could score a few if he gets the chance.


Mark Ella (57)
Los Pumas.

Argentina squad

Backs: Horacio Agulla (Bath), Marcelo Bosch (Saracens), Lucas Gonzalez Amorosino (Cardiff Blues), Santiago Cordero (Regatas Bella Vista), Thomas Cubelli (Belgrano Athletic), Jerome De la Fuente (RC Elves), Santiago Gonzalez Iglesias (Alumni Association), Juan Martín Hernandez (unattached), Juan Imhoff (Racing Metro), Martin Landajo (CASI), Manuel Montero (Pucara), Matías Moroni (CUBA), Nicolas Sanchez (Toulon), Joaquin Tuculet (unattached).
Forwards: Matias Alemanno (La Tablada), Marcos Ivan Ayerza (Leicester Tigers), Rodrigo Baez (RC Liceo), Matias Cortese (RC Liceo), Agustin Creevy (Worcester Warriors), Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe (Toulon), Juan Cruz Guillemain (Stade Francais), Ramiro Herrera (Castres Olympique), Santiago Iglesias Valdez (University Tucumán), Thomas Lavanini (Racing Metro), Juan Manuel Leguizamón (Olympique Lyon), Benjamin Macome (Bayonne), Lucas Noguera Peace (Lynx RC), Guido Petti (SIC), Leonardo Senatore (Worcester Warriors), Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro (Olympique Lyon)


Mark Ella (57)

Some only available for the All Blacks Test (Premiership players *cough* fluffybunnys *cough*) Some for all 4, Others only joining for the European leg. Big Greg Peterson has declared, great news for the Eagles world cup campaign.

USA Eagles squad
Danny Barrett , Todd Clever , Tom Coolican , John Cullen , Cameron Dolan , Eric Fry , Troy Hall , Seamus Kelly , Olive Kilifi , Scott Lavalla , Samu Manoa , Tim Maupin , Angus Maclellan , Mate Moeakiola , Taku Ngwenya , Folau Niua , Thretton Palamo , Mike Petri , Greg Peterson , John Quill , Blaine Scully , Adam Siddall , Hayden Smith , Louis Stanfill , Tim Stanfill , Kyle Sumsion , Andrew Suniula , Shalom Suniula , Benjamin Tarr , Phil Thiel , Brett Thompson , Matt Trouville , Tai Tuisamoa , Nick Wallace , Chris Wyles


Mark Ella (57)
Bakkies Botha (Toulon, France) - Lock, 83 Test caps

Schalk Burger (Suntory, Japan) - Loose forward, 73 Test caps

Nizaam Carr (DHL Western Province) - Loose forward, uncapped

Marcell Coetzee (Cell C Sharks) - Loose forward, 22 Test caps

Robbie Coetzee (Xerox Golden Lions) - Hooker, uncapped

Damian De Allende (DHL Western Province) - Centre / Wing, 2 Test caps

Lodewyk de Jager (Toyota FS Cheetahs) - Lock, 7 Test caps

Jean de Villiers (captain, DHL Western Province) - Centre, 102 Test caps

Bismarck du Plessis (Cell C Sharks) - Hooker, 66 Test caps

Jannie du Plessis (Cell C Sharks) - Prop, 60 Test caps

Eben Etzebeth (DHL Western Province) - Lock, 29 Test caps

Johan Goosen (Racing Metro, France) - Fullback / Flyhalf, 5 Test caps

Bryan Habana (Toulon, France) - Wing, 103 Test caps

Cornal Hendricks (Toyota FS Cheetahs) - Wing, 9 Test caps

Francois Hougaard (Vodacom Blue Bulls) - Scrumhalf, 32 Test caps

Jaco Kriel (Xerox Golden Lions) - Loose forward, uncapped

Patrick Lambie (Cell C Sharks) - Flyhalf / Fullback, 36 Test caps

Willie le Roux (Toyota FS Cheetahs) - Fullback / Wing, 21 Test caps

Victor Matfield (Vodacom Blue Bulls) - Lock, 117 Test caps

Teboho “Oupa” Mohoje (Toyota FS Cheetahs) - Loose forward, 3 Test caps

Tendai Mtawarira (Cell C Sharks) - Prop, 61 Test caps

Lwazi Mvovo (Cell C Sharks) - Wing, 9 Test caps

Trevor Nyakane (Toyota FS Cheetahs) - Prop, 9 Test caps

Coenie Oosthuizen (Toyota FS Cheetahs) - Prop, 17 Test caps

Ruan Pienaar (Ulster, N Ireland) - Scrumhalf, 80 Test caps

JP Pietersen (Panasonic, Japan) - Centre / Wing, 56 Test caps

Handré Pollard (Vodacom Blue Bulls) - Flyhalf, 6 Test caps

Julian Redelinghuys (Xerox Golden Lions) - Prop, uncapped

Cobus Reinach (Cell C Sharks) - Scrumhalf, 2 Test caps

Seabelo Senatla (SA Sevens / DHL WP) - Wing, uncapped

Jan Serfontein (Vodacom Blue Bulls) - Centre, 16 Test caps

Gurthrö Steenkamp (Toulouse, France) - Prop, 52 Test caps

Morné Steyn (Stade Francais, France) - Flyhalf, 59 Test caps

Adriaan Strauss (Toyota FS Cheetahs) - Hooker, 40 Test caps

Duane Vermeulen (DHL Western Province) - No 8, 25 Test caps

Warren Whiteley (Xerox Golden Lions) - Loose forward, 2 Test caps


Grandmaster Flash

Johnnie Wallace (23)
Saw the ABs will be getting a new jersey for the EOYT. Will they clash with the Scots during their game, and if so, will they be wearing a white or a grey away strip? Or do the Scots have to change jerseys?

waiopehu oldboy

Phil Waugh (73)
Saw the ABs will be getting a new jersey for the EOYT. Will they clash with the Scots during their game, and if so, will they be wearing a white or a grey away strip? Or do the Scots have to change jerseys?

NZ Maori have a one-off tour jersey, AFIK the AB do not.

Last time we went to Murrayfield the Scots rocked up in this fetching number:


Guessing something similar will happen this time around.


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waiopehu oldboy

Phil Waugh (73)
This is the NZ Maori jersey:


The bottom half has an Asian-themed design, very angular c.f. the curves of the top half. Obviously designed prior to Singapore getting the flick or they'd have just gone for something specific to Japan, one assumes.

And WTF are Scotland doing in red? What next, England in black (lol)?
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