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NSW AAGPS 2025 (banter and commentary)

ItsNotPink

ItsNotPink

Billy Sheehan (19)
3rd XV Round 6 Preview
With just two rounds to play there are only two teams that can win the Col Windon Shield in 2025 – Joeys and Riverview. They are four points clear at the top of the table and play each other in the final Round 7. But this week there are still a number of pivotal matches. Kings host TAS in the battle for 3rd place, Riverview host Shore to continue their quest to remain undefeated, Grammar host Scots and Joeys travel to Centennial Park to play High.

Kings 3rd XV v TAS 1st XV (1:00pm on JS White Oval)
Both teams have been beaten by Riverview and Joeys, so this is a timely match up for 3rd place. TAS have to make the long trip but will enjoy not having to play in the snow! Kings had a very close loss to Joeys last week and have had a good season despite the two losses. In what promises to be a great contest, I am thinking that Kings at home will just have the edge. But it will be another great match.
Kings by 2.

Riverview 3rd XV v Shore 3rd XV (1:00pm on Riverview #1)
The undefeated Riverview team hosts Shore at Lane Cove in their quest to remain unbeaten and who would bet against them? While Shore had a solid win over High last round, they have struggled at times this season and will likely find it tough going against an in-form Riverview side that has dominated the opposition so far this season.
Riverview by 14.

Grammar 1st XV v Scots 3rd XV (11:00am on Weigall #1)
It’s been a long season already for Grammar, who are yet to win a match after five rounds. Scots have had two wins, and this will most likely be their third win if the match goes to form. Grammar played last week in the snow in Armidale so they will be happy to return home to sunny Rushcutters Bay, but this will prove to be a tough contest against the boys from up the road in Bellevue Hill.
Scots by 20.

Joeys 3rd XV v High 1st XV (11:00am on McKay Oval)
After a very close escape against Kings last week, Joeys will travel to Centennial Park to play High in this second last round. Despite the improvement that High has shown this year, they will likely be outclassed by this very capable Joeys team. A win on Saturday will set Joeys up for a grand final clash with Riverview in Round 7.
Joeys by a fair margin.
 
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Clemfandango

Frank Row (1)

A Message for Parents as Schoolboy Rugby Wraps Up​


To all the parents out there watching their boys finish up school rugby, well done. The Schoolboy rugby journey is a great part of Rugby and its sad when it ends, but also the beginning of next steps. And I hope this post is informative


Before you get swept into Colts footy...
Here’s something you might not know—and it matters.


The Colts Player Points System (2026)​


There’s a rule in place that says:


If your son plays 6 or more games of 1st Grade Colts at a club, he becomes a 5-point player under the Points Cap system.
What does that mean? It means he’ll be costly for any other club to take—even if the environment he’s in now isn’t the right fit.
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Now imagine this:
Your son gets promised the world in Year 12—kitted out, schmoozed, told he'll be “developed”... only to find himself lost in a poor culture, under poor coaching, or sitting behind three older players who were promised the exact same thing.


But now he’s played six games.
Now he's locked in.
Now he’s too “expensive” to take a fresh shot elsewhere.


This system rewards clubs for fast recruitment, not genuine development.
It doesn’t ask, “Did you help this kid grow?”
It only asks, “Did you get him on the park six times?”

What Should You Look for Instead?​


Before signing anything or accepting boots and promises:


  • Check the culture – Speak to families already there. Is the club really developing your player or are they just all about recruitment and grade and colts is just an after thought once the season starts.
  • Check the facilities – Is your young player going to get good access to the tools and facilities he'll need to grow from student to adult player
  • Check the coaches – Are they passionate about Colts development? Or are they using it as a stepping stone for themselves to progress to Grade?

You’re not just choosing a club.
You’re choosing a two-year experience at a critical point in your son’s journey—as a player and a young man.

Btw we should ask -
Why doesn’t the points system allow freedom of movement during Colts?
Why are 17-year-olds being forced to make decisions that shape the next two years of their rugby future before they’ve even stepped on a Colts training paddock?


Wouldn’t it make more sense to apply the points weighting when Colts players graduate to Grade?
That way, we’d be rewarding clubs who actually invest in young players—not just those who get a signature early.

I hope this is useful - make of it what you will - I will post across the forum for each ISA, CAS an GPS
Ignore if not of value.
 
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Here for the advice

Chris McKivat (8)
Please take a bunch of your mates from across your life (not just one school) and make a program you want to play for better…..! A tiny fraction will make a living from sports but a massive fraction can enjoy rugby for many years in colts and gear or even subbies. You can build a culture of a colts program in a season by turning up with a positive attitude and some talented mates - some who may blossoms outside the constraints of a school program that promised the world too…. A 2s 3s who finally get a chance over some show boat who was good in U15s and has done not much since, someone who adds 5-10kgs over the summer of is a late bloomer maybe the better Colts player….

Turning up to a club thinking they owe you something or your owed a chance above those who are there now - that’s the attitude that will see you walk away. Heck take a break for a year go overseas and play in Spain, Malta or heck Canada - then when you return and love of the game remains pick a club.
 
Joker

Joker

Moderator
Staff member
The Cattledogs v The Evil Empire at Heavenly pastures

Another round but one that is important. This week so much will ride upon the two top teams of Cattledogs and Swamp Monsters. With a win to Joeys and a loss by the Monsters to the Shoremen, Joeys will be in striking range of sharing the title with the Lane Cove Lunch Club. To get there first, the Doggies will need to tear up Scots. TSC have been an eternal conundrum this season. While possessing some stellar talent and mercurial coaching staff the issues that have halted their success still come up during the game. The culture at Scots is the last key ingredient. This ingrained culture is ego-centric. While the players are all good blokes, they cannot share the toys when needed with team mates but go for individual glory. (This will make them look even bigger in the eyes of the Kambala girls....Sydney's #1 school for eastern suburb wives) The game will probably be played in rain. Scots had to wear googles and flippers last weekend in their close loss the Wild Wolves. This weekend they will be playing on God's chosen rugby field were torrential rain causes no headache. The field though can get a bit greasy in the wet so big side stepping can be an issue. With a possibility of another premiership, Joeys will come out fired up focused. Scots will be playing for pride with hope they are not thrown into the compactor by the Dark Lord on their return to the Death Star.

Hope to be there. This is a game I love to attend as I get to catch up with my former staff mates, I might even say hello to Lord Camembert.
If is raining I will be with big sky blue umbrella. Come and say hello.

Good luck to all teams this weekend.

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Apologies for any grammar issues @Lindommer. My skills have seriously diminished this past 12 months.
 
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jester23

jester23

Frank Nicholson (4)
Does anyone information about riverviews 6XV as they go up ahead the Scots undefeated 6XV and as an advicate for quality social schoolboy rugby i am keen to see this battle. Have heard the Scots forward pack is not only big but extremely technical and smooth when it comes to ball skills and knowing where to be.
 
The Ghost of Raelene

The Ghost of Raelene

John Eales (66)
Rugbynbeers said:
Outstanding work.

Colts families you’ll see this year lots of boys from Eastwood and Norths moving clubs and heavily disappointed.

boys promised the world and received rugby league coaching instead…
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Going to Norths is brain dead if they have the ‘current coaching and management.

Even if it’s the family Club and your local they only care about recruiting a 1st Grade. Development ain’t the goal there no matter what they say. They’d rather pick up some fringe prem pommy or Auckland 2nd grader to play over developing a Colt.

Boys alternatively should go where they will play. Easts might seem cool but it sucks if you ride the pine and pay a lot to boot up early and then pay the grades matchies. Nothing wrong with going and playing at the Pirates and putting in showings. Sides like the Brums 19s pick a majority from Sydney and aren’t watching 3rds Colts even if it is Easts or Uni. You can out yourself in a good spot at others.
 
InsiderScoop

InsiderScoop

Larry Dwyer (12)
The Ghost of Raelene said:
Going to Norths is brain dead if they have the ‘current coaching and management.

Even if it’s the family Club and your local they only care about recruiting a 1st Grade. Development ain’t the goal there no matter what they say. They’d rather pick up some fringe prem pommy or Auckland 2nd grader to play over developing a Colt.

Boys alternatively should go where they will play. Easts might seem cool but it sucks if you ride the pine and pay a lot to boot up early and then pay the grades matchies. Nothing wrong with going and playing at the Pirates and putting in showings. Sides like the Brums 19s pick a majority from Sydney and aren’t watching 3rds Colts even if it is Easts or Uni. You can out yourself in a good spot at others.
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Boys will think going to the uni/easts in colts is just sunshine and rainbows, which sometimes it is, but it's a 25 week long playing year and you'd rather be respected by the club rather than used as a stepping stone.
Boys think being offered scholarships means they are valued, which to a great extent it values their education but the clubs also go after every single top prospect in their position. You want to be around a good group of people, especially when you're training with them from late October.
 
twister29

twister29

Jimmy Flynn (14)
The Chairman said:
SHORE 1st XV

1. Jarrett
2. Garner
3. Hamilton
4. Frape
5. Galligan
6. Stock
7. Reardon
8. Clout
9. Greig
10. Bassingthwaighte
11. d’Almeida
12. Francis (c)
13. Wendt
14. Hockey
15. Callaghan
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Thanks Chairman.

Very happy to see the refreshing return of The Galtitude, Reardon and Frape.
 
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fortheloveofthegame

Chris McKivat (8)
Clemfandango said:

A Message for Parents as Schoolboy Rugby Wraps Up​


To all the parents out there watching their boys finish up school rugby, well done. The Schoolboy rugby journey is a great part of Rugby and its sad when it ends, but also the beginning of next steps. And I hope this post is informative


Before you get swept into Colts footy...
Here’s something you might not know—and it matters.


The Colts Player Points System (2026)​


There’s a rule in place that says:




Now imagine this:
Your son gets promised the world in Year 12—kitted out, schmoozed, told he'll be “developed”... only to find himself lost in a poor culture, under poor coaching, or sitting behind three older players who were promised the exact same thing.


But now he’s played six games.
Now he's locked in.
Now he’s too “expensive” to take a fresh shot elsewhere.


This system rewards clubs for fast recruitment, not genuine development.
It doesn’t ask, “Did you help this kid grow?”
It only asks, “Did you get him on the park six times?”

What Should You Look for Instead?​


Before signing anything or accepting boots and promises:


  • Check the culture – Speak to families already there. Is the club really developing your player or are they just all about recruitment and grade and colts is just an after thought once the season starts.
  • Check the facilities – Is your young player going to get good access to the tools and facilities he'll need to grow from student to adult player
  • Check the coaches – Are they passionate about Colts development? Or are they using it as a stepping stone for themselves to progress to Grade?

You’re not just choosing a club.
You’re choosing a two-year experience at a critical point in your son’s journey—as a player and a young man.

Btw we should ask -
Why doesn’t the points system allow freedom of movement during Colts?
Why are 17-year-olds being forced to make decisions that shape the next two years of their rugby future before they’ve even stepped on a Colts training paddock?


Wouldn’t it make more sense to apply the points weighting when Colts players graduate to Grade?
That way, we’d be rewarding clubs who actually invest in young players—not just those who get a signature early.

I hope this is useful - make of it what you will - I will post across the forum for each ISA, CAS an GPS
Ignore if not of value.
Click to expand...
i think the points system works for Colts at this point in time. The very strongest clubs are forced to play their best colts in grade. i’d also encourage boys to go to clubs where they won’t cruise into first grade. if you want to progress the competition for places is very healthy.
 
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