NSW AAGPS Rugby 2013

[The Spectator]

The 16A's have 5 missing this year, and upwards of 8 last year where they were only managed to secure a draw against Grammar. Its a shame, really skewing the competition against those that place players up for talent/development like View and Shore have done in particular.

TRue enough but even when the boys who are now playing up were in the 16s (i.e. Hutch, McGregor, Hurley and Hancock they didn't win against Joeys or Scots.

It points to more a lack of depth in View than anything else that these players are parachuted in.

 

[wreckless]

Joeys lost 32-22. Joeys scored 15 points in the last 10 minutes. Three New boys injured. One carried off on stretcher.

Anyone want to talk about the actual game?

Newington were ordinary - still should have put 45 -50 points on Joeys but poor kicking, ill discipline and "push passing" negated this. The second half ran to about 45 minutes by my sun dial! Enough time to make the score respectable.

 

[Lee Grant]

The second half ran to about 45 minutes by my sun dial! Enough time to make the score respectable.

I made it 49 minutes elapsed time but don't forget the long stoppage for that serious injury and all the warnings. They still got only 35 minutes of game time.

The first half was of 44 minutes elapsed time but again, there was 35 minutes of game time.
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[SonnyDillWilliams]

Wow ... I Was only able to see first half of newington joeys game. A few observations . Newington are going to be very hard to beat. I knew they had some big backs, but their forwards monstered joeys forwards. Seemed that joeys forwards were running too close to the ruck, and that saw them absolutely nailed. There will be some sore bodies today ... Although really from both sides.

Trouble is if joeys went more lateral, they ran into the worlds biggest inside centre. Taane has a big future in whatever code he goes for ... And yet it was not him that was proving the damaging broken field runner. Not sure of who that was ... he looked fijian? So joeys seemed to realise u couldn't kick the ball to their backs. Deegan was amazing and crazy brave!

Thought the joeys half back was ok, certainly he shouldn't of allowed one high ball to bounce ... Almost led to a try. And personally i think pat curtain should be returned to 1s. Better pass and don't see what he is lacking.

Anyway think the scots v newington game is going to be titanic ...and maybe scots might be lucky if newington isn't full strength. Scots of all the schools probably has the cattle, but this newington team is a site to behold.

At one stage I shouted some encouragement to the joeys boys ... Telling them their best bet was to speed up the pace of the game ... And I reckon half the team looked at me in terror and the other half possibly thinking yes they might be able to run rings around these monsters.

Anyway thought the joeys team showed a lot of character ... And i will be interested to see if scots can do the same

 

[knock on]

Newington 16As were beaten 5-63 by Joeys (without imports). Be interesting how Newington will bolster its ranks in the next two years as Scots is now "scholarship central".

 

[knock on]

Really looking forward to the scots v joeys 16a in a few weeks. Very strong sides. Joeys have some terrific outside backs Dylan grant scored four tries against new and was generally unstoppable as he has been all year good performances too from others like Eddie king. Scots and joeys forwards fairly even scots may have an advantage in the halves thought. Should be a cracker.

 

[Low to High]

Newington 16As were beaten 5-63 by Joeys (without imports). Be interesting how Newington will bolster its ranks in the next two years as Scots is now "scholarship central".

It must have been an off day for Newington. Newington are probably the worst of the six GPS schools in the 16's age group, but they shouldn't be losing by 58 points, even to Joeys. Joeys and Scots clearly another level above the others in the 16's

 

[knock on]

It must have been an off day for Newington. Newington are probably the worst of the six GPS schools in the 16's age group, but they shouldn't be losing by 58 points, even to Joeys. Joeys and Scots clearly another level above the others in the 16's

 

[knock on]

Joeys 16s put view away by 50+ as well. You're right scots and joeys are clearly heads and shoulders above but the lack of depth at other schools is disturbing.

 

[thefencesitter]

Joeys and Shore seem to be the only schools with depth all the way down to the G's. C's to G's for those two teams are continually thrashing the others by 25+ points

I really disagree with this, especially regards to Shore. I believe they only won 2 games throughout all ages in the Joeys round. While Joeys seem to be slightly above the pack in all-age depth, Kings, View, Scots are always in high contest, consistently winning the majority of games over Shore week in, week out.

 

[aka_the_think]

The introduction of Volleyball in the under 16 age group at View has been particularly damaging to the C - G teams, as it was a lot of the "better" players of those teams that left. The 16's age group at View has never been particularly strong, but one thing that I don't think gets factored in very often is the fact that many very good athletes, particularly in the 16's age group at View, play AFL, a sport that, to my knowledge, isn't offered by any other GPS School (happy to be corrected). I believe View fields two AFL teams in the 16's age group, with 3 or so players in the NSW team. I know this isn't an AFL forum I am just making a point that 40+ kids in their year of 250 odd are playing AFL many of whom are very, very good athletes who would likely be good rugby players if they played it.
In addition, there is a general lack of interest at View in rugby, particularly in the 16's, that is not to say people don't care - the vast majority of Rugby players at View are very passionate however, particularly in the lower teams many boys simply do not go to training or care about the results at all. It is quite disappointing.
However, to my knowledge, Riverview 16's won every game except the A's where they were obviously smacked. Can I just say that despite the result, there was some very willing Riverview boys out there, putting their body on the line despite being down by 40+. What more can one ask for?

Joeys and Scots have incredible A teams in the 16's age group, and Joey's depth is incredible, I think they beat the 16E's at View 100 - 0 over on their first field, however to the person that claimed that Shore were on an equal footing to Joeys in terms of depth and strength from the C's to G's you are simply wrong, in fact Shore quite regularly lose in these teams when they play a school like Riverview, and obviously when they play Joeys.

 

[Jasdec]

Scots 2nd. S 26 Riverview 29
Scots 3 rds won, can't recall the score Sorryo

Scots 19 View 5
New 0 Joeys 20?
Any results on Kings v Shore? 3rds

 

[GPStyle]

Scots 2nd. S 26 Riverview 29
Scots 3 rds won, can't recall the score Sorryo

Scots 2nds quite lucky to get that close in my opinion. It was 29-12 with 10 mins to go and view seemed to go down a notch or two but still very well done on not giving up to the scots boys.
3rd XV score was 19-10 very even contest could of gone either way i have seen a few 3rd XV games now this season and i have really enjoyed them they are quite often tight really hard fought games

 

[Lee Grant]

There is a blog on the NC v SJC and TKS v Shore games here (photos to follow).

http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/nsw-gps-round-3-match-reports/

Please advise if there are any errors and I'll change them. Am I right in saying both Moeroa and Milne got carded? I get confused sometimes when I'm writing down stuff and don't notice what's happening on the field.

Anybody want to comment on the Scots/View game to add a brief "match on the run" report to the blog. Post it here.

Anybody got photos of the games (except the one at Newington?)

Thanks guys.
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[wreckless]

There is a blog on the NC v SJC and TKS v Shore games here (photos to follow).

http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/nsw-gps-round-3-match-reports/

Please advise if there are any errors and I'll change them. Am I right in saying both Moeroa and Milne got carded? I get confused sometimes when I'm writing down stuff and don't notice what's happening on the field.

Anybody want to comment on the Scots/View game to add a brief "match on the run" report to the blog. Post it here.

Anybody got photos of the games (except the one at Newington?)

Thanks guys.
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Good summary LG - and yes, you are correct re cards.

Newington's replacements this week ( #7 Stuart Mill and #11 Liam Eruini-Bennett for Cannell and Kennewell respectively ) both aquitted themselves well as did the substitutes used during the game and this will be important in this longer season and with a high attrition rate. There were several injuries including what looked a serious leg injury to one of the Newington replacement backs. This lad came on wearing #22 and was having a great game until injured and stretchered off - best wishes to him and here's hoping it's not too serious!

Wreckless

 

[wreckless]

Joeys lost 32-22. Joeys scored 15 points in the last 10 minutes. Three New boys injured. One carried off on stretcher.

One little sideline to the New vs. Joeys game that I liked : it was good to see Jono Hardy, Matt Sandell, Nick Pinnisi (SJC) and Stuart Mill (NC) all catching up after the game at the post match function!

All these boys played together for NSW Country in U/15's & U/16's including a tour to Tonga together. One of the best things about our game is the life long friendships that can be made and that years later - after belting each other all over the park - these guys appeared to seek each other out for a chat, a few laughs and a catch up! From what I could see their parents were having a good catch up as well!

Good Stuff! Wreckless

 

[Jim Belshaw]

"And to address a note that has surfaced multiple times in other forums, unfortunately the Armidale teams in the current years 10 and 11 are certainly weaker than their SGS counterparts, so I'm not entirely convinced the fixture-flipping is going to be viable next year."

I'm not sure on this point. It is true, I think, that the lower year TAS teams are not as good measured by the performance of the 15As against SGS. I didn't see the other games. But I had thought that fixture flipping was a thing of the past?

This year having watched TAS and SGS, TAS must have a chance. Listening to the SGS coach before the game, he told the boys that TAS had had limited pre-season games (I think that's true) and that if they held TAS would break down in the phase play. That happened, but TAS was good enough with more games to win a lot more.

As a purely personal comment, I greatly enjoyed the game. I can't join in the majority thread on this forum re the firsts. I don't greatly care. I am watching for and cheering for SBHS, SGS and TAS as the underdogs against the Rugby powerhouses. I suppose it's a them and us thing!

As a final comment on TAS, the school is the Rugby centre of Northern NSW. The school's facilities and organisational skills are central to carnivals and specialist coaching. There is a whole Rugby world outside Sydney. And as a Rugby lover, I applaud that

 

[Inside Shoulder]

"And to address a note that has surfaced multiple times in other forums, unfortunately the Armidale teams in the current years 10 and 11 are certainly weaker than their SGS counterparts, so I'm not entirely convinced the fixture-flipping is going to be viable next year."

Where's the quote from and what is fixture flipping?

 

[Jim Belshaw]

Where's the quote from and what is fixture flipping?

Hi IS. The quote fis rom a post on this thread that actually seems to have vanished. I couldn't find it again! I interpreted fixture flipping to refer to previous cooperative arrangements between the three schools.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Hi IS. The quote fis rom a post on this thread that actually seems to have vanished. I couldn't find it again! I interpreted fixture flipping to refer to previous cooperative arrangements between the three schools.

I think its pretty important to keep a connection going between SGS, TAS and SBHS - soon to be joined by Shore? - I thought in the 15s there was a good clash of styles. And TAS were competitive.
TAS won the 13s very easily: despite what I gather is some unfamiliarity - I overheard the TAS coach asking "Who are the lineout jumpers?".