I think there's a little bit of difference to 'at least one fresh prop' and a whole fresh front row, particularly when GPS 2nd grade is currently in 7th place and their 3rd grade is battling to hold onto 4th place.Woo up mate. The skill level of the blokes sitting on the bench for Prem Grade and the guys playing 5th grade are quite different. Regardless, GPS are still finding the cattle they need, my point wasn't so much a complaint as it was raising a possible change for next year, which has been brought up by several clubs already.
And I think you'll find with the new rules brought in this year, most clubs are carrying at least one fresh prop on the bench for Premier Grade, sometimes even reggies. Brothers had fresh forwards on the bench for 1sts, 2nds and 3rds. It's not uncommon.
Have just watched the footage and it is horrendous for both clubs involved. My thoughts:
1) the GPS player should have stayed away while the injured Brothers player was being attended to, no matter what she thought she heard being said. Time to grow up and act like a Premier Grade player. I've never seen that happen in a mens premier grade game.
2) the Brother's linesman is going to be in trouble for being the first person to lash out. Worse, if only for pure optics, it was against a female. I agree with Steak - the initial contact looked like a shove.
3) the GPS team should be ashamed of what I can only describe as a pack attack by surrounding the linesman while they were at least screaming at him. I would be shocked if there was not at least one punch or slap given by one of the GPS players, given the heat of the moment. But I can imagine the linesman would have been experiencing overwhelming fear in those moments.
4) the hoodie guy should be in deep shit. Running across the field, in and around the melee to then clearly seek out the linesman and throw a high punch intended to connect with the head.
My final thought - the womens comp now has the title 'Premier Womens'. It's about time that the women playing in this comp learn that with their expectation that everyone should treat them with the level of respect that they demand (and I do know that a lot of clubs have been dealing with the womens team expecting the same 'perks' as their Mens Premier grade) they also learn that there are stronger consequences when actions like these occur.
one of the more anti-GPS posts there. Not surprising given where its come from
In all honesty, if the touchy had stayed on the touch line, like he is meant to, none of that happens.
You've never seen that in a men's game? Oh come on. I've seen it plenty and I've watched a small percentage that you have at club level.
Of course there was a pack attack on the touchie. Did you expect the team just sit back and watch one of their team mates get attacked by a bloke double her size? THat would happen in men's games too.
Regardless of who is most at fault, this is the second unsavoury incident where spectators have gotten into a bingle with players in recent weeks at Yoku Rd. It will be interesting to see what measures are put in place to address this other than Anthony Herbert playing a lone-hand trying to bring sanity to an out of control situation.
I think there's a little bit of difference to 'at least one fresh prop' and a whole fresh front row, particularly when GPS 2nd grade is currently in 7th place and their 3rd grade is battling to hold onto 4th place.
Personally I would like to see the fresh front row from first grade play 1/2 a game in seconds but I think that would be dangerous to second grade props. Fred Burke had worked over Zander and Hooper - what do you think he would do to a 2nd maybe 3rd grade prop?
LOL...If he's that good maybe he should be starting.
Some 1st grade front rowers in one club would be starting 3rds in others. That's generally why players move to play 1st grade or higher grades.
Yep contested scrums all the way down the grades.
There are a few blokes playing out of position in the lower grades to ensure they can field a contested scrum and not lose competition points. I think you'll find they may amend the rules next year, I know GPS aren't the only club who have raised safety concerns over players in 5th grade having to pack at prop when they aren't suited to it.
Making contested scrums from 4th grade up compulsory I think would alleviate lots of the headaches.
I don't see this as fixing the issue. Maybe clubs need to spend time training front rowers. If you go 4th grade up, then what happens if the 4th grade props get injured? The rule was put in place because a number of clubs use uncontested scrums as a tactic when they dont have a strong front row. This issue has been getting worse over the years to the point that you watch multiple grand finals with uncontested scrums. It is not rugby. It is part of the game. Scrummaging is a genuine skill that requires training. Just like tackling. I understand the safety concern but that comes down to training and commitment.
Not sure of my math, but I think its more like 10.
Don't the current rules still allow for uncontested if a prop goes down with injury during the game without loosing points provided they start contested?
For mine it could be GPS that could have a tough year. They seem to be aging and do not have the Colts coming through.
my top 4 in no particular order
Bond, UQ, Brothers, Easts
All I thought getting back to Rugby would be a good thing. Interesting to see what we all said at the start of the year.
my picks look ordinary.
final 4 for mine.
GPS Some genius did not have them in the top 4.
then any of 4
Bond who cannot defend
Wests getting some serious cattle back
Brothers as above
Souths a Smokey but will probably fall short as they have lost a couple they should have won.
Easts could go from the penthouse to the other house.
GPS colts have turned it around. Well played.
McReight outplayed by Giquel big time, Wallaby??
Agree with your point regarding McReight in attack, I actually think at club level McReight is one of the best attacking forwards in the game, his link player and running lines are epic. Needs to add that string to his bow at Super level.
Hoopert hasn't come back the same player he was in early 2020. He's been minced this year by club level packs. GPS bringing on a fresh front row of Felemi, Mafi and Burke with 30mins to go will be a great advantage going forward. They need to make sure they convert that scrum pressure into constant points though. Once again I think the backline looked a bit limp compared to what the forwards were doing.
UQ will probably get Campbell and possibly ASY back on top of the Reds’ players we’ve already seen this year. Think Tate would be the only likely Wallaby squad member from UQ.
UQ well out in front at the moment , but the other teams could have a very different look come late August.