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QLD Premier Rugby 2025

Ras

Herbert Moran (7)
Good on Seru - If anything he's strengthening the comp moving to souths, and that's what the purpose of Reds players coming back should be. Plenty of players jump around for the opportunity to even play first grade. Who knows if wests told him to move on because they've promised another player (who is available the whole competition) minutes.

Would you break a promise and disrupt the culture for a guy who's gonna play 3-8 games a season? Just because he left your club doesn't make it treason.
 

Major Tom

Cyril Towers (30)
What do you mean poach back?

Seru had 4/5 years at Easts and left at end 2021 to head to Wests in 2022 where he has been aligned to until the switch to Souths.

Not the first bloke to jump ship from Wests to Souths - SSY, other wallaby look?? but first I have known to play for 3 compass clubs

I hope Souths get a good return at allegedly $2,000 a game from a private donor.

As a bloke who has toiled all year in Prems for love of game & club - I don’t know how thrilled I’d be to pack down with a bloke who is getting $2,000 to run out in my club’s jersey.

I know we live in a different age but there is no loyalty in the modern player.

Easts got Suru out of Fiji and he turned his back on them after winning a premiership and now he’s done the same to Wests.

All the clubs love seeing guys (& girls) advance their careers play in Super Rugby, play abroad, etc but I just hate seeing guys switch clubs for what amounts to pocket money.

I don’t understand why De Lutus switched from Easts to Wests this year?
Good for Bloomfield’s development I guess.
 

PhilClinton

Paul McLean (56)
I said it earlier in the year and it’s still the case - GPS are a long way from a premiership and need a coach who’s been in a few larger systems to come in and inject some established talent who can help mentor the young guys.

Someone responded to me back then saying to give Sio time because the team was young etc.

That is true - but QPR is an amateur comp where these young guys (particularly those who haven’t come through the colts system) are essentially using it as a stepping stone for a professional gig in Super or overseas. Hard to retain the same young talent year on year for most clubs to build up to a premiership.
 

Spamnoodle

Alfred Walker (16)
What do you mean poach back?

Seru had 4/5 years at Easts and left at end 2021 to head to Wests in 2022 where he has been aligned to until the switch to Souths.

Not the first bloke to jump ship from Wests to Souths - SSY, other wallaby look?? but first I have known to play for 3 compass clubs

I hope Souths get a good return at allegedly $2,000 a game from a private donor.

As a bloke who has toiled all year in Prems for love of game & club - I don’t know how thrilled I’d be to pack down with a bloke who is getting $2,000 to run out in my club’s jersey.

I know we live in a different age but there is no loyalty in the modern player.

Easts got Suru out of Fiji and he turned his back on them after winning a premiership and now he’s done the same to Wests.

All the clubs love seeing guys (& girls) advance their careers play in Super Rugby, play abroad, etc but I just hate seeing guys switch clubs for what amounts to pocket money.

I don’t understand why De Lutus switched from Easts to Wests this year?

Not poaching Seru specifically. Just getting a player over from Wests when it's been one way traffic for a little while. HMP being the latest.

If 2k a game is true (probably isn't) it hardly amounts to pocket money. Especially someone coming from a poor background from the islands. In fact I think that's pretty disrespectful.
 
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Heavensgame

Frank Row (1)
Norths beat Easts in second grade today - that means they have now beaten Wests (1st) & Easts(3rd) in the last 3 weeks sandwiching a 2 point loss to Bond. Norths sit in 5th spot only 2 points in arrears of GPS.
Reserve Grade yesterday UQ 59 Norths 26 - the run didn’t last long
 

Heavensgame

Frank Row (1)
I said it earlier in the year and it’s still the case - GPS are a long way from a premiership and need a coach who’s been in a few larger systems to come in and inject some established talent who can help mentor the young guys.

Someone responded to me back then saying to give Sio time because the team was young etc.

That is true - but QPR is an amateur comp where these young guys (particularly those who haven’t come through the colts system) are essentially using it as a stepping stone for a professional gig in Super or overseas. Hard to retain the same young talent year on year for most clubs to build up to a premiership.
My understanding is that they brought in Kelevi to transition to their Prem Grade Coach - not sure that is working out well for them - their pack is getting owned week after week
 

Bulldog

Arch Winning (36)
Back to Suru I just don’t think guys should get paid to play club rugby - get to next level whether that be Super Rugby, Japan, USA but play for the club you were affiliated with before you went professional as a sign of gratitude to that club.
Shoot me down - I know I’m old fashioned but really is $6k/$8k on top of your super contract really going to make a lot of difference after he pays his tax.
And yes he should declare it - he’s a professionally paid resident (income earnt in Australia) - pay your tax like the rest of us.
The Law firm paying him should be asking for his ABN.
I am hazarding a guess but I don’t recon a Thor, Wilson, McReight would send the Flith a bill for their services, nor Gill - Easts or Tate or Jock Campbell - Uni.
In fact in years gone by the QRU didn’t permit clubs to top up players contracts with payments from club land - even though we knew it was rife at some clubs.
 
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Wilson

John Eales (66)
Not sure why anyone is speculating about whether or not Uru is meeting his tax obligations for what is fundamentally legitimate income, whether you like or not. It is pretty fucking disappointing to see the suggestion, seemingly out of nowhere, that he might be operating outside the law. Really low act.
 
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Spamnoodle

Alfred Walker (16)
Is Seru being paid a fact or just conjecture?
I have no idea but it seems strange to me why he's being singled out. Why has Theo Fourie gone to brothers, why has HMP moved to Wests, why did Kalani move to uni, Vest to Souths etc etc etc. was it money? Other incentives or the age old rugby benefits of just playing with your mates.
 

PhilClinton

Paul McLean (56)
I’m not sure players would be allowed cash incentives if they’re signed by the Reds. As the QPR is run by the QRU, wouldn’t any cash payment need to be declared and potentially form part of the salary cap for the Reds?

I know when the Faingaas and Radike came to GPS there were some cars being floated around, not cash.
 

Bulldog

Arch Winning (36)
Not sure why anyone is speculating about whether or not Uru is meeting his tax obligations for what is fundamentally legitimate income, whether you like or not. It is pretty fucking disappointing to see the suggestion, seemingly out of nowhere, that he might be operating outside the law. Really low act.
I think if you go back a page my comments about paying tax were not a slight against Seru Uru but more so this post.
zero chance any of us would be declaring a $2k handshake
To be honest if anyone or any club is willing to fork out large amounts of money for a player or players it is none of my business - it just goes against the fabric of what I believe a community not for profit rugby club should be and just be careful about the impact it might have on your club’s culture and sustainability.
 
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PhilClinton

Paul McLean (56)
My understanding is that they brought in Kelevi to transition to their Prem Grade Coach - not sure that is working out well for them - their pack is getting owned week after week

I’ve got no gripes with Kelevi, good bloke, I played a fair bit of footy with him over the years as well (I think half of Brisbane did to be honest). But I don’t think he’s the answer.

I think back to the Piccone era and although it wasn’t the best outcomes, it was good to see someone bring fresh players in and the group of players that stuck around ended up bringing a new group through who weren’t from the ‘standard catchment’ of players. We need something like that again at GPS, although probably not a player manager type deal again.
 

Bulldog

Arch Winning (36)
South’s are broke as anything and people like vest and herbet collect a paycheck there and haven’t been paid them. Same with Garrick heard moneys running low
It just seems strange in light of this post on the first page of this forum that they can open their cheque book for another forward.
 

Spamnoodle

Alfred Walker (16)
It just seems strange in light of this post on the first page of this forum that they can open their cheque book for another forward.

My question is do you know this for certain or is it speculation?
I think the original post was also speculation because those players are still there and Morgan probably would have been to if he didn't come into poor health.
There has been a lot of mud thrown at Souths on this forum of late.
I'm a supporter so possibly take note a bit more closely, though I'm still just a mug punter and have no inside word, but it seems to me a lot is way off the mark.
 

Wilson

John Eales (66)
I think if you go back a page my comments about paying tax were not a slight against Seru Uru but more so this post.

To be honest if anyone or any club is willing to fork out large amounts of money for a player or players it is none of my business - it just goes against the fabric of what I believe a community not for profit rugby club should be and just be careful about the impact it might have on your club’s culture and sustainability.
That comment was in response to one of yours though:
I hope Suru is declaring this income with the ATO.

You brought up tax obligations, seemingly out of nowhere. No one else should've built on that with further unfounded speculation or implication, but you absolutely started this line of conversation. If you didn't want to slight him you shouldn't have started that line of conversation, and if you don't want it to be seen as a slight against him you should delete your comments and apologise for them.
 
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