Rugby Championship 2025 : Wallabies v Argentina Rnd 2

[TSR]

One of those games where lots of good things, but kept shooting our selves in the foot and no sustained pressure. I thought the refereeing was generally poor and inconsistent but our discipline was poor as well in the first half and that wasn’t his fault. Two weeks in a row and it is putting the team under way too much pressure. That and our lack of any success in the air was the game lost.

The first part is a team issue and they need to fix it quickly. The second one may be harder to fix but needs to be addressed as well.

 

[Heavyd]

A sober watch of replay this morning after being at the game. Congratulations Argentina who played fast pace skilful rugby.
Firstly the atmosphere, not just in the stadium but in the pubs everywhere before the game, the city full of gold jerseys, the argy crowds noise all day. Just a magnificent occasion.

The game, just some really poor options on 3 or 4 crucial occasions that really cost us.

The ref, on review wasn’t as bad as I thought watching live. Two or three howlers but not the 20 or so I thought at the stadium.

geez it’s a good set up at Allianz, getting 42000 in and out of the stadium on trams and buses. It’s a world class venue.

Boys need a big rest. Hopefully Joe says go home to your families, have the week off and they come together next weekend to start the NZ leg.

 

[Heavyd]

Also Sualli is world class. Thats now beyond question. His hands are sublime.

 

[rugbyAU]

A sober watch of replay this morning after being at the game. Congratulations Argentina who played fast pace skilful rugby.
Firstly the atmosphere, not just in the stadium but in the pubs everywhere before the game, the city full of gold jerseys, the argy crowds noise all day. Just a magnificent occasion.

The game, just some really poor options on 3 or 4 crucial occasions that really cost us.

The ref, on review wasn’t as bad as I thought watching live. Two or three howlers but not the 20 or so I thought at the stadium.

geez it’s a good set up at Allianz, getting 42000 in and out of the stadium on trams and buses. It’s a world class venue.

Boys need a big rest. Hopefully Joe says go home to your families, have the week off and they come together next weekend to start the NZ leg.

I don’t want them to have a week off that didn’t work for us going into first lions and Argentina game

 

[emuarse]

Its not all gloom & doom.
The Wallabies, after 4 games played, lead the Rugby Championship:
1) Wallabies 11 points
2) Springbok 10 " PF/PA +18
3) All Blacks 10 " " " -15
4) Pumas 9 "

 

[PhilClinton]

Hard to pinpoint exactly why things just started clicking as there seemed to be a number of coinciding events in the second half which brought us back into the game.

The three biggest in my opinion being:

- JOC (James O'Connor) coming on
- Argies bench players coming on
- Argie winger copping a yellow for deliberate knock down

 

[Red Runner]

Well I hope you bring them luck because surely the Eden Park has to break sometime? Then it would set up a cracker home game in Perth...

where are you Yoda? You made more posts related to Tom Lynagh in this thread before the game, and he wasn't even playing, than you've made in this thread post kick off....

 

[Yoda]

where are you Yoda? You made more posts related to Tom Lynagh in this thread before the game, and he wasn't even playing, than you've made in this thread post kick off....

More posts on Tom?

 

[emuarse]

@Red Runner.
Yoda's probably on the starship Enterprise, searching the universe for toxic mushrooms to cook a nice Beef Wellington for Tom L

 

[Yoda]

Schmidt now in article saying he's thinking about JOC (James O'Connor) sticking around for the NZ games. Of course he should. If there is a chance to beat the Kiwis we need JOC (James O'Connor). Edmed not ready and looked out of sorts yesterday. Either JOC (James O'Connor) or Donno to start and then the other one on the bench. Ikitau back and then ideally Skelton. If we beat the Kiwis at Eden Park it would be HUGE! Cinderella story for O'Connor possibly.

 

[Yoda]

@Red Runner.
Yoda's probably on the starship Enterprise, searching the universe for toxic mushrooms to cook a nice Beef Wellington for Tom L

It would more than likely be the Millenium Falcon with Han Solo if we are telling that story.. or Jim Jones and his famous coolaid for you guys. Funny guy Mr Emu!

 

[TSR]

I don’t think this is a game I’m going to watch again, but on my initial viewing I’m surprised by the negativity re Edmed both here and more widely today. The charge down was obviously a bad error - but aside from that he seemed okay to me. His kicks actually seemed pretty well placed but we just weren’t good enough either in the air or on kick chase and we either got penalised or made errors too quickly for any 10 to be able to build pressure.

I thought Hunter (unfortunately) managed in one game to both show why it was I was cautiously optimistic about him and also show why so many others were doubtful. He showed he is powerful enough to play at test level but reinforced concerns around his decision making. Ironically if he had have played more conservatively (with reference to the suggestion he is the place the ball goes to die) it probably would’ve been an 8 out of 10 performance.

 

[Lyall]

Thanks for the newsflash, Marce, you muppet.

Do you know for a fact that it is Marce or is it a metaphor, genuine question?

 

[rugbyAU]

Schmidt now in article saying he's thinking about JOC (James O'Connor) (James O'Connor) sticking around for the NZ games. Of course he should. If there is a chance to beat the Kiwis we need JOC (James O'Connor) (James O'Connor). Edmed not ready and looked out of sorts yesterday. Either JOC (James O'Connor) (James O'Connor) or Donno to start and then the other one on the bench. Ikitau back and then ideally Skelton. If we beat the Kiwis at Eden Park it would be HUGE! Cinderella story for O'Connor possibly.

We ain’t beating the kiwis at Eden Park - not a chance

 

[TSR]

We ain’t beating the kiwis at Eden Park - not a chance

Would you have said we were likely to beat South Africa at Ellis Park a month ago?

 

[TSR]

People really are very fickle. A week ago we seemed to be on the verge of another golden age. One 2 point loss later and we appear to suddenly be shit again in the eyes of some.

Fix our discipline (and most of it was very fixable) and we probably win last night. And that is not meant to be disrespectful to Argentina who are a good team.

 

[rugbyAU]

Would you have said we were likely to beat South Africa at Ellis Park a month ago?

NZ have 51 tests unbeaten at Eden Park, it’s a harder place to win and they always lift against us - we’ve won 4 of our last 33 against them

 

[Adam84]

@Red Runner.
Yoda's probably on the starship Enterprise, searching the universe for toxic mushrooms to cook a nice Beef Wellington for Tom L

More like Chancellor Palpatine energy calling Order 66 on T Lynagh with his hot key posts last week.

 

[John S]

NZ have 51 tests unbeaten at Eden Park, it’s a harder place to win and they always lift against us - we’ve won 4 of our last 33 against them

Yes but that wasn't the question - I don't think many people saw us winning big at Ellis Park.

The last few months have seen a big resurgence in belief in the Wobs because they have really lifted this year and not like total crap.

On the flip side, the ABs have been uncharacteristicslly rubbish and inconsistent.

Our errors yesterday are fixable, we did a lot yo redeem the first half in the last 20 minutes - so this year seems the most likely year to best the Eden Park hoodoo

 

[TSR]

NZ have 51 tests unbeaten at Eden Park, it’s a harder place to win and they always lift against us - we’ve won 4 of our last 33 against them

Sure. Not saying it’s easy or it’ll be likely.

But at the same time our chances are probably as good as they have been for some time.

We also could lose by 30 - I’ve just never understood the need to be so definitively negative as some on here.