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Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
Agree will be tough but credit to them to get after it now and find out.

Cheers.

Speaking as a Board member: we did pretty much the same exercise last year, but it was a bit later in the year because there was no RWC to get in the way ;)

We have to weigh carefully the statements we hear directly against what we've observed. It isn't an exact science and there is probably no solution that fits every single club perfectly. Nor do we think that we're going to arrive at an outcome that everyone is 100% happy with.

If you want to make friends, sell ice cream :)

At the point where the Board makes a decision, it is done with the greater good in mind. We're not trying to persecute anyone or have any agenda past that. There are certain guidelines we're using - 8x8x8 being an example - and we're doing our best to get it right.

We also don't think we're perfect, so to those on here who believe they fall into that category: get out from behind that keyboard and apply now! No experience required :)
 

Rigby

Frank Row (1)
2024 game plan
Lindfield up
Petersham and Forest down
Mosman sneak through to stay in div 1 on the fact they finished higher than Forest in all grades bar colts and their ability to field 6 grades
Get a proper Sutherland and Richardson cups going again rather than some last minute throw together finals series
My logic is undeniable and subbies to offer me a board position for my incredible wisdom
 

Nine

Frank Row (1)
Cheers.

Speaking as a Board member: we did pretty much the same exercise last year, but it was a bit later in the year because there was no RWC to get in the way ;)

We have to weigh carefully the statements we hear directly against what we've observed. It isn't an exact science and there is probably no solution that fits every single club perfectly. Nor do we think that we're going to arrive at an outcome that everyone is 100% happy with.

If you want to make friends, sell ice cream :)

At the point where the Board makes a decision, it is done with the greater good in mind. We're not trying to persecute anyone or have any agenda past that. There are certain guidelines we're using - 8x8x8 being an example - and we're doing our best to get it right.

We also don't think we're perfect, so to those on here who believe they fall into that category: get out from behind that keyboard and apply now! No experience required :)
I see things are different for you these days
 
How about this for the Divisional Structure for the top 3 Divisions in 2024?

Returning to even numbered competitions will remove the Byes and the disruption caused by too many weeks off for various clubs/teams. I think these are stable and fairly even divisions all things considered.

Div 1 (8): Colleagues, Waverley, Mosman, St Pats, Drummoyne, Blue Mountains, Hunter's Hill, Lindfield

Div 2 (6): Petersham, Forest, Hills, Newport, UNSW, Epping

Div 3 (8): Briars, Hawkesbury Valley, Beecroft, Sydney Harbour, Knox, Sydney Harlequins, Old Barker, Iggies
 

Denistone_Dennis

Chris McKivat (8)
How about this for the Divisional Structure for the top 3 Divisions in 2024?

Returning to even numbered competitions will remove the Byes and the disruption caused by too many weeks off for various clubs/teams. I think these are stable and fairly even divisions all things considered.

Div 1 (8): Colleagues, Waverley, Mosman, St Pats, Drummoyne, Blue Mountains, Hunter's Hill, Lindfield

Div 2 (6): Petersham, Forest, Hills, Newport, UNSW, Epping

Div 3 (8): Briars, Hawkesbury Valley, Beecroft, Sydney Harbour, Knox, Sydney Harlequins, Old Barker, Iggies
A 6-team division playing everyone 3 times will quickly lead to 1-2 clubs becoming whipping boys for the rest (Hills and Epping based on that list). By the time you get to the 3rd round of matches everyone will be prioritising grades, with cricket scores everywhere.
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
A 6-team division playing everyone 3 times will quickly lead to 1-2 clubs becoming whipping boys for the rest (Hills and Epping based on that list). By the time you get to the 3rd round of matches everyone will be prioritising grades, with cricket scores everywhere.

There's that, but moreso you get clubs dropping their lowest grade(s) and potentially becoming a 5-club comp, as the stalwarts desert the joint.

You really need 7 as a minimum to buffer against such eventuality. Even then look at Savers in Third Div this year.
 

TheBigArvo

Chris McKivat (8)
This only shows what I’ve been saying all along, which ever way you slice it there’s not enough teams to run 3 Divs of 8 teams. One division will always suffer.

How about a 10 team Division, whilst it doesn’t fit the 14 rounds would give a buffer if 1 team was struggling and is an even number of teams.


Div 1 (10): Colleagues, Waverley, Mosman, St Pats, Drummoyne, Blue Mountains, Hunter's Hill, Lindfield, Forrest, Petersham/ UNSW

Div 2 (10): Petersham/UNSW, Hills, Newport, Epping, Briars, Valley, Beecroft, Knox, Sydney Harbour, Harlequins/ Barker

I know the combined division hasn’t worked previously but taking the top of Division 3 may make it workable? Otherwise your going to drop a heap of quality teams into Div 4 who will dominate those clubs already there.

Bigger divisions have to be the option as it offers a buffer if 1 club starts to struggle during the season. A 6 team comp were 1 team falls over like Manly did means multiple weeks off for clubs/teams.
 
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