SupeRugby Final 2011: Queensland Reds V Canterbury Crusaders
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John Thornett (49)
Let's hope Ant Fainga'a got all those missed tackles out of the way last night, he really had one of his poorer games. On the other hand I thought Taps was outstanding in defence.
disco
Chilla Wilson (44)
Yeah agree Tigerland as did Robinson & Samo but I think all these players will be better for the run last night. Other than Ioane all the injury lay off players looked a little ring rusty.
Will be intersting to see if Link sticks with a 5-2 split next week & wether Chambers will hold his spot on the bench if Morahan is passed fit.
Will be intersting to see if Link sticks with a 5-2 split next week & wether Chambers will hold his spot on the bench if Morahan is passed fit.
Joe Blow
Peter Sullivan (51)
The Stormers couldn't live with the pace and intensity of the Crusaders and made the mistake of trying to.
The Reds play the game as fast, if not faster, than anyone else in Super Rugby and will play their own game.
The travel will have to have an effect on the Saders late in the game so the Reds will aim to stay with them for the first 60 minutes and then try and pull away in the final quarter.
Defense will be key for the Reds.
The Reds play the game as fast, if not faster, than anyone else in Super Rugby and will play their own game.
The travel will have to have an effect on the Saders late in the game so the Reds will aim to stay with them for the first 60 minutes and then try and pull away in the final quarter.
Defense will be key for the Reds.
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chriscullen
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Anyone know the chances of getting a ticket to the game, will there be public tickets left on Wednesday after the members buy theirs?
Cpt Crow Eater
Chris McKivat (8)
I'd say that discipline is the big factor here.
Dan Carter kicked like a machine against the stormers, booting them from nearly 50m on a few occasions and having no problems.
Sure they scored two tries, but one was an intercept which was a gift....
Dan Carter kicked like a machine against the stormers, booting them from nearly 50m on a few occasions and having no problems.
Sure they scored two tries, but one was an intercept which was a gift....
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Tom Lawton (22)
Crusaders played well but thought the Stormers were Ill disciplined and didn't read play well. Think the game will be a ripper. Ewen has kept his hand close to his chest and will have something up his sleeve. Whether the lads have finals experience or not, Link will manage them well. Will be a tightly contested game. Go the Reds.
16000 members. 52000 seats. You're in with a chance.
Scotty
David Codey (61)
Three keys for the reds:
1. Coopers kicking must be better. The saders loosies must be punished for any infringements in there own half. We have to come away with points regularly when attacking in the red zone.
2. Similar to the above the reds must be better at controlling and recycling their own ball when deep in attack. Too many times they let the blues off when they should have been attacking their line for long periods.
3. Defense was good vs the blues but the blues attack was poor. Reds will need better line speed to cut down the space around the fringes and the midfield. More aggression in defense - throw everything at them.
Oh and I would much rather Joubert than Kaplan as referee.
1. Coopers kicking must be better. The saders loosies must be punished for any infringements in there own half. We have to come away with points regularly when attacking in the red zone.
2. Similar to the above the reds must be better at controlling and recycling their own ball when deep in attack. Too many times they let the blues off when they should have been attacking their line for long periods.
3. Defense was good vs the blues but the blues attack was poor. Reds will need better line speed to cut down the space around the fringes and the midfield. More aggression in defense - throw everything at them.
Oh and I would much rather Joubert than Kaplan as referee.
Crusaders looked very good, had this been a regular season game I'd have expected 4 tries from them, as it was they took a lot of shots at goal. Carter slotted one from 51 metres and just missed one from 56 metres. Could well be the difference.
Chances of Harris kicking for the Reds next week?
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John Hipwell (52)
Should be a very good chance. 15,000 members, i am Forever Red member and can buy 2 tix, not sure how many other members can buy. If you asssume everyone can get 2 that is a max of around 30,000 tix to members IF they can all go. Also surprised the true believers (members) get til Tuesday to get tickets, with only one week to sell it out i'd only be giving members 2 days before opening it up to the public, especially with Origin fever in Bris this week.
Fatigue might be a bigger issue than i expected. Just finished watching the first half and find it interesting that they could only put on 3 points in the second half after the 2 tries with no possession in the first. If the Reds are there abouts at half time i'll be pretty confident. Not sure a bye is the best thing for 1 & 2 as they both looked a bit off their usual pace at times coming back.
Sandpit Fan
Nev Cottrell (35)
Hope the playing surface holds up alright, 3 big games in 7 days on a freshly laid surface. From memory it was a bit ropey the last time we played the Crusaders?
Reckon we can win, but can't afford any mistakes.
Reckon we can win, but can't afford any mistakes.
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Muttonbird
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It's Bryce Lawrence.
Right now it seems the Crusaders are able to rise to whatever is put in front of them and I think they have the momentum and must be a very close unit off the field. The Reds, by dint of their conference performance, haven't really had a testing final series to date. The Blues were committed in parts but clueless as a whole.
Groucho
Greg Davis (50)
Cooper had an off night but he's been kicking at 70%+ this year. No need to go dropping players to protect him.
BDA
Peter Johnson (47)
I thought the Saders were very good last night however they were playing an inferior team.
Don't get me wrong the Stormers are a strong side, especially defensively but they have proven numerous times this season that against the better defensive teams they lacked the attack to penetrate. The Reds and the Saders both found the Stormers easy targets in Newlands because the Stormers attack just wasn't able to create any real pressure.
Last night while watching the saders game I recall thinking to myself the Stormers attack had no creativity and their counter attack was tame at best. The Stormers' only strong point in attack is their rolling maul, and when that didn't work they knew they were screwed. when their attack wasn't working they became frustrated and the result was predictable.
I have no doubts in my mind that it is going to be a different story next week. The Reds are infinitely more dangerous on attack/counterattack. The Saders wont find life so easy.
Don't get me wrong the Stormers are a strong side, especially defensively but they have proven numerous times this season that against the better defensive teams they lacked the attack to penetrate. The Reds and the Saders both found the Stormers easy targets in Newlands because the Stormers attack just wasn't able to create any real pressure.
Last night while watching the saders game I recall thinking to myself the Stormers attack had no creativity and their counter attack was tame at best. The Stormers' only strong point in attack is their rolling maul, and when that didn't work they knew they were screwed. when their attack wasn't working they became frustrated and the result was predictable.
I have no doubts in my mind that it is going to be a different story next week. The Reds are infinitely more dangerous on attack/counterattack. The Saders wont find life so easy.
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RuckinGoodStats
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Harris is 8 from 8 when he kicked. I did a piece on Carter and kicking difficulty http://www.theroar.com.au/2011/07/01/arron-cruden-a-better-kicker-than-dan-carter/
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RuckinGoodStats
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Reds missed 35 tackles by my count v Blues. The Crusaders had bugger all possession and were ahead at half time then play a territory game in the 2nd half.
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RuckinGoodStats
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For Carter's boot to be a factor for pens you need to get them awarded. The Reds cough up less than the Crusaders in average.
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