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Sydney Subbies 2022

Prodigy

Alex Ross (28)
Sorry, but this is ridiculous.

You copped an absolute howler, you did, no denying it. The bloke probably shouldn't be reffing, or he should have consulted with one of this touchies if he wasnt sure.

But if you're a senior coach at your club (as I know you are), and you believe that a decision more than 60 minutes before the end of the game decided the result (that wasnt a red card), you are kidding yourself. What message does that send to your players???

They know you're on here, and they know who you are. Think about how you conduct yourself.
Think about how I conduct myself? Interesting.
I’ve got no problem with anyone on here knowing who I am. My name is Nathan Harvey and I’m the club coach at Epping. I’m not hiding behind an obscure screen name. Geez, I’m even using a proper profile picture.
I’d like to know what part of what I’ve said so far is an issue. The game was decided by less than 7 points. Redfield scored 7 points based on that call. It’s not controversial.
I’d like an explanation on why it was allowed to happen. My guys who worked their butts off deserve to know.
It needs to be a learning experience for everyone. We are happy to note when player stuff up and make mistakes. We wish Redfield good luck after the game. My guys kept their chins up and supported first grade.

I got more out of my guys and my club this year than any other club has had to ask of their players, supporters and committee. I couldn’t be prouder. I’m disappointed for them that their amazing season will be remembered for that decision!
 
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Heavyd

Trevor Allan (34)
There are 4 points separating them from Petersham on the Club Championship table, so maybe that's a question of who wants it more/less.

A 10-club Div 1 is a nice idea, but only if you can run an 18-week season to even everything up. And I'm not sure that is sustainable.

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Can’t see Subbies running a 10 team Div 1 which would leave a 6 club Div 2.
 

Waterloo_Ned

Herbert Moran (7)
I thought we copped some tough calls yesterday, but I just watched the Epping/Redfield decision.

I think people understand referees make mistakes with forward passes, knock ons, scrum infringements, but this is another level. The rule is all receiving team players must be at the 10m line unless warned. That just can't be a try.
 

SubbiesSoftie

Frank Row (1)
Drifting away from referee complaints....
Some closer than expected games in Div 1.

HH only beating Petersham by 10 points. I realise there were 2 late tries but would this worry HH at all with a rematch this weekend?

Colleagues seemed to have dipped towards the back of the season, only managing 19 points against a poor Drummoyne, does anyone see them as a true threat against Waverley or HH?

Pats seemed to take care of Blue Mountains quite comfortably, likely speaking to the Goats ability rather than Pats.

Any early money on who will be crowned champs in Kentwell?
 

The Waverley Walrus

Bob McCowan (2)
If Colleagues are dipping, you'd probably have to back Waverley?
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Prodigy

Alex Ross (28)
@Pfitzy do you have a local guy who does jersey framing for you? Looking for someone local as the guy we’ve been recommend is at Chatswood.
 

footy_footy

Herbert Moran (7)
I was intrigued by the comments on here so had a look at the Epping v Redfield match to see what the all the fuss was about.

Holy smokes! I feel for Epping - plainly the wrong call. A sour way for the season to end, for all involved.

Interested to see how Drummoyne bounce back in 2023. No teams in the finals this year off the back of the 2020 success in the Club Championship and Kentwell - a dramatic fall from grace.

A few quick Div 1 Grand Final & Premiership tips

Sutherland Cup - Mosman v Colleagues
Judd Cup - Blue Mountains v Mosman (Blueys Judd Cup isn't a "fourth" grade side - they'd probably beat their seconds but what can you do!)
Whiddon Cup - Waverley v Blue Mountains (as above, but I am more accepting as Waverley have come top 2 in Kentwell, Burke & Barbour so it's not a blatant 'stack')
Barbour Cup - Colleagues v St Pat's
Burke - Waverley v Hunters Hill
Kentwell - Waverley v Colleagues

Not sure if these combinations are possible when the draw crosses in week 2 of finals but you get my drift. Will be a big day for Waverley at TG Milner in a few weeks methinks.
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
@Pfitzy do you have a local guy who does jersey framing for you? Looking for someone local as the guy we’ve been recommend is at Chatswood.
We had a guy up at Victoria Avenue in Castle Hill. Will see if someone has his details.
 
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Eastcoast

Ted Fahey (11)
Drifting away from referee complaints....
Some closer than expected games in Div 1.

HH only beating Petersham by 10 points. I realise there were 2 late tries but would this worry HH at all with a rematch this weekend?

Colleagues seemed to have dipped towards the back of the season, only managing 19 points against a poor Drummoyne, does anyone see them as a true threat against Waverley or HH?

Pats seemed to take care of Blue Mountains quite comfortably, likely speaking to the Goats ability rather than Pats.

Any early money on who will be crowned champs in Kentwell?
All good from our end. Petersham are strong and have good players across the park but we were still down 5 of our normal starters in 1's and were up by 22 before taking the foot off the gas late

Looking forward to a final series without any drama similar to what seems to have happened in the lower divisions.
 

The Ghost of Raelene

Mark Ella (57)
Dirty Reds not in Div 1.... Who would of thunk it. Hope the WAGS are happy. Look at what you have done

(Potentially)?

Are there multiple clubs wanting to go up? A lot of chat about clubs going down to various divisions.
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
Dirty Reds not in Div 1.... Who would of thunk it. Hope the WAGS are happy. Look at what you have done

(Potentially)?

Are there multiple clubs wanting to go up? A lot of chat about clubs going down to various divisions.

On the surface it looks ripe for getting back to 8 per div looking at the results. The first step is deciding who drops down from Div 1 then cascade to Div 2 and 3.

Someone like Epping would be happy to get back to a division with 3 Grades minimum so they're not The Travelling Wilburys again.
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
8 is the sweet spot right? With a 4 team finals

14 games is the most I think anyone can really bare now.

Yep - 20 weeks maximum: 14 rounds, 2 wet weather, one long weekend bye, and 3 of finals.

Easter is April 7-10 next year, so if the season starts April 15 - I hasten to add all these dates are just my speculation, not official :) :

Rounds 1-4 - Apr 15 > May 6
Wet Weather May 13
Rounds 5-7 - May 20 > Jun 3
Long Weekend Jun 10
Rounds 8-12 - Jun 17 > Jul 15
Wet Weather Jul 22
Rounds 13-14 - Jul 29 > Aug 5

Finals for Aug 12-26

After that it is a question of whether Divisions are going to be staggered again. Typically Div 1 finishes a week later but they usually have an extra Wet Weather weekend anyway.
 

Eastcoast

Ted Fahey (11)
Completely agree - Alot of players are good for the first half of the season but dont commit until its finals time again. Alot of sports in the same situation trying to get people to commit full time is almost impossible.
Players then will come back for finals time. Subbies have alot of big decisions coming over the off season. Hopefully we can keep the top grades at a good level.

Speaking of a good level - that Petersham pitch on Saturday was terrible. Groundsman is going to have some issues rolling that for Cricket season.
 

Numberthree

Frank Row (1)
Completely agree - Alot of players are good for the first half of the season but dont commit until its finals time again. Alot of sports in the same situation trying to get people to commit full time is almost impossible.
Players then will come back for finals time. Subbies have alot of big decisions coming over the off season. Hopefully we can keep the top grades at a good level.

Speaking of a good level - that Petersham pitch on Saturday was terrible. Groundsman is going to have some issues rolling that for Cricket season.
The pitch at Camperdown is always terrible. It takes one game on a rainy Saturday and it's done for the season. You'd think after this many years council would have found a way to improve drainage but doesn't seem to be a priority.
 

Numberthree

Frank Row (1)
8 is the sweet spot right? With a 4 team finals

14 games is the most I think anyone can really bare now.
There's some talk about Div 1 being a 9 team comp next year - 16 games, every team gets 2 byes so no need for the guaranteed byes. Same length season. I don't think subbies have any real appetite to send Drummoyne down. They had a tough season but at least they kept rolling out 5 teams every week and weren't being beaten by 100. Same for Petersham. I think there are a lot of conversations to be had before the final makeup for div 1 is resolved next year.
 

Numberthree

Frank Row (1)
All good from our end. Petersham are strong and have good players across the park but we were still down 5 of our normal starters in 1's and were up by 22 before taking the foot off the gas late

Looking forward to a final series without any drama similar to what seems to have happened in the lower divisions.
I was out there on Saturday, HH look to be in pretty good form, maybe the best form of the comp right now. Thought the game turned in that period in the second half with HH up 20-10 and Petersham on their line for 5 minutes. Eventually got held up over the line, knocked on soon after the dropout and next minute HH are scoring up the other hand. 20-17 becomes 25-10. Games can turn on small things.
 
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