Sydney Subbies 2025

[Pfitzy]

Hills absolutely butchered their 1st Grade game with an extremely high error rate gifting the game to Hornsby

TBF Hornsby have a very good first grade squad, and seem to have most of them back on the park after what looked like a disrupted year.

I was surprised they didn't finish higher tbh, and they'll give Beecroft a real fight in the most important game of the year

 

[EddieJones1985]

My personal opinion is that Petersham need to win the top 2 games to be considered for promotion at this point.

Yes, Petersham are club champions, but they haven't had the lower grade depth in a competition that was designed to give all but 2 teams the chance at premierships. That, for me, is a missed opportunity. As much as it pains me to say having an affinity for them as neighbours (kinda), Petersham have been the top club this season in many ways, but UNSW have been right on their tail when behind them AND miles ahead of them in 3s and 4s.

UNSW are the team I believe should go up assuming they don't s*** the bed on Saturday. Look at their performance top to bottom - EVERY grade made finals and only 1 grade (ironically, their lowest) missed the Grand Final. If you want to look at a club that will be competitive in Div One, where you'll need to field an extra side, you have to look at a team with 5 already strong teams ready to go.

The only thing that will hurt them on Saturday is that they have to field 60 fresh players in consecutive games - are they going to have any fresh reserves that wouldn't be starting in a lower grade? It's an odd situation for sure, but that comes down to Club Championships points multipliers rather than any perceived gulf in performance.

For a club that got the spoon in their first year in division two, and won the club champs by the barest of margins in their second year, Petersham seem very confident to want to go up.

If it only took Newport and Lindfield a year or two to come back down to earth it will take Petersham one trip to the mountains to regret their decision. Good luck to them they deserve the opportunity.

 

[Odyssey_Park the 2nd]

For a club that got the spoon in their first year in division two, and won the club champs by the barest of margins in their second year, Petersham seem very confident to want to go up.

If it only took Newport and Lindfield a year or two to come back down to earth it will take Petersham one trip to the mountains to regret their decision. Good luck to them they deserve the opportunity.

Interesting to see Newport promoting there games tonight as an opportunity to jump Lindfield and stay in Div 1. Id have thought they’d want to go back to Div 2 after the year they’ve had.

 

[Heavyd]

For a club that got the spoon in their first year in division two, and won the club champs by the barest of margins in their second year, Petersham seem very confident to want to go up.

If it only took Newport and Lindfield a year or two to come back down to earth it will take Petersham one trip to the mountains to regret their decision. Good luck to them they deserve the opportunity.

When a club moves higher it is generally off the back of sustained Premierships. That Premiership glory also means a lot of older players take the opportunity to retire. So the challenge for clubs going up DIVs is how do you keep players that got you there playing when you get there. Thats the eternal challenge.

 

[Odyssey_Park the 2nd]

When a club moves higher it is generally off the back of sustained Premierships. That Premiership glory also means a lot of older players take the opportunity to retire. So the challenge for clubs going up DIVs is how do you keep players that got you there playing when you get there. Thats the eternal challenge.

Good luck tonight Heavy D. Hope the boys finish on a high after a tough year but you guys have kept on showing up. Credit to both you and Lindfield for not forfeiting all year.

 

[Footyhead67]

Interesting to see Newport promoting there games tonight as an opportunity to jump Lindfield and stay in Div 1. Id have thought they’d want to go back to Div 2 after the year they’ve had.

Surely Newport cannot be serious.

1st grade 2/14.
2nd grade 1/14.
3rd grade 1/13.
4th grade 1/13.

Another year like this could see them drop from Div 1 to even Div 3. Strong colts but grade struggling, dropping 2 divisions. I've heard this story before...

I'm not taking a dig at Newport. I hope their graduating colts stick come through to grade next year, but I'm just slightly concerned for the club. If they believe they have the resources and the challenge for next year, back yourself.

 

[EddieJones1985]

When a club moves higher it is generally off the back of sustained Premierships. That Premiership glory also means a lot of older players take the opportunity to retire. So the challenge for clubs going up DIVs is how do you keep players that got you there playing when you get there. Thats the eternal challenge.

No doubt, Newport were in 3/3 GFs and won two of them before going up to Div one. very worth of having a crack.

Lindfield had a dominant year club wide before going up.

I wonder if the players at Petersham are keen to go up, after only just beating Irish on the weekend. Or is it just a bunch of old boys pushing hard for this?

 

[Crashy]

Newport would be fine in Division 2. Happened to my club BOBS back in the day. Dominated div 2 from 1sts to colts and came last in Div 1 the following year in the club champs. Big step up.

 

[Pfitzy]

wonder if the players at Petersham are keen to go up, after only just beating Irish on the weekend. Or is it just a bunch of old boys pushing hard for this?

Their social media was ready to call for promotion after Saturday

Careful what you wish for

 

[Heavyd]

Newport would be fine in Division 2. Happened to my club BOBS back in the day. Dominated div 2 from 1sts to colts and came last in Div 1 the following year in the club champs. Big step up.

The big difference in DIV 1 is 3s and particularly 4s aren’t the old blokes running around like in DIV 2. As I think I saw someone comment the likes of Mosman, Colleagues & Waverley all run these grades with fit mid 20s type players. In 2nd DIV the lower grade demographics are a decade older.

 

[sterlingmortlocksgloves]

The big difference in DIV 1 is 3s and particularly 4s aren’t the old blokes running around like in DIV 2. As I think I saw someone comment the likes of Mosman, Colleagues & Waverley all run these grades with fit mid 20s type players. In 2nd DIV the lower grade demographics are a decade older.

HeavyD you’re acting like the average age of your 3/4s is 40 odd. It’s 25.

 

[Odyssey_Park the 2nd]

How much over the bar tonight Heavy D? Big night to round out the season. A few boys might call in sick to work tomorrow.

 

[Pfitzy]

Newport win both games and pull themselves off the bottom of the ladder in Whiddon, Judd, and the CC

 

[Let it sing]

Newport win both games and pull themselves off the bottom of the ladder in Whiddon, Judd, and the CC

They look to have lost 4th grade but won 3rds and stay last in Div 1 CC, not that that is the sole determination of promotion/relegation.

Would think Drummoyne, Lindfield and Newport will have to front Subbies for a review to determine if there is change to Div 1 or all three are given another year to deliver.

 

[sterlingmortlocksgloves]

Newport win both games and pull themselves off the bottom of the ladder in Whiddon, Judd, and the CC

Subbies website has 4th grade with a win to HH.

 

[Odyssey_Park the 2nd]

Newport win both games and pull themselves off the bottom of the ladder in Whiddon, Judd, and the CC

Think you might have had a few with Heavy D at the bar tonight Pfitzy. A non bonus point win in 3s means they’ll finish 15 points behind Lindfield.

 

[Odyssey_Park the 2nd]

Would think Drummoyne, Lindfield and Newport will have to front Subbies for a review to determine if there is change to Div 1 or all three are given another year to deliver.

I think Drummoyne are the ones everyone has forgotten about this year. A couple of “surprise” results in 1s over the Lions period lifted them out of the danger zone.
I don’t think they’ll will be dropped; However their results haven’t been there this year and the fact they didn’t field 5 grades will count against them. They are on their own as the only team not to appear in the finals.
They rebounded after 2022 and I’m sure they will again but how long will Subbies keep one of “untouchables” if they continue to struggle?

 

[Pfitzy]

Think you might have had a few with Heavy D at the bar tonight Pfitzy. A non bonus point win in 3s means they’ll finish 15 points behind Lindfield.

Nope just a few at home. Oops.

Linfield by 12. A second grade bonus point in it.

 

[Pfitzy]

I think Drummoyne are the ones everyone has forgotten about this year.

Was just looking at that - they're not that far ahead on CC points from Lindfield or Newport. Big gap then to colleagues

Hunters Hill 2889
Waverley 2475
Mosman 2317
Blue Mountains 2215
Colleagues 1904
Drummoyne 1107
Lindfield 995
Newport 983

Edit: random thought bubble about including JJC points in club championship calculations - with the same points weighting as Colts:

Lindfield +296 points
Colleagues +168
Hunters Hill +160
Newport +544

 

[subbies specialist]

I think when you look at results over the last few rounds you will see how well both Newport and Lindfield have gone against the top 4 sides. No real blowouts and some highly competitive games. This is good for subbies all round as an 8 team comp is prob a few teams short of the desired number.

Lindfield especially seem to have lost many games by small margins this year. Not surprising considering they were a top 4 team last year.

while loud and bloody noisy at home, there is proof here that both clubs deserve to be in division 1 and add some colour and fabric to the grass roots game.