Silverado
Dick Tooth (41)
I just think that last year Reds should have had more players in the 23 , this year not so much and a couple that were in are less likely. The other teams may get a couple in, but deservingly the Brumbies will dominate
Wallabies 2023
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Tomikin
Simon Poidevin (60)
Usually picking players from a team that's winning is a good formula..
I know as a Reds fan you'd only pick Valetini in the starting Wallabies team from the Brumbies. Lucky for the Wallabies non of us are selectors.
Derpus
George Gregan (70)
Piss off with this bullshit
Tomikin
Simon Poidevin (60)
No..
TSR
Mark Ella (57)
I do wonder Tomkin whether you had any misgivings last year that players from the Reds were passed over for Brumbies players, given your comments about picking players from winning teams.
IMO all of Sllipper, Fainga’a, Ala'alatoa, Swain, Neville, Frost, Valetini & Samu will be in the sqaud and a good number of them in the 23. And deservedly so.
But I could easily see a starting team of Bell, Porecki, Tupou, Philip, Rodda, Hooper, Holloway/Wilson/Leota, Valetini and I think you’d be hard pressed to say any of those selections would be unwarranted.
I’m not sure that’s the likely team at the moment with the injury to Tupou, but you’d be hard pressed not to say those aren’t the form players in each position.
IMO all of Sllipper, Fainga’a, Ala'alatoa, Swain, Neville, Frost, Valetini & Samu will be in the sqaud and a good number of them in the 23. And deservedly so.
But I could easily see a starting team of Bell, Porecki, Tupou, Philip, Rodda, Hooper, Holloway/Wilson/Leota, Valetini and I think you’d be hard pressed to say any of those selections would be unwarranted.
I’m not sure that’s the likely team at the moment with the injury to Tupou, but you’d be hard pressed not to say those aren’t the form players in each position.
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Jimmy_Crouch
Ken Catchpole (46)
Who makes it who missed out last year? I actually don't agree. Lonerganx2, McInerney Muirhead and Neville will miss out but Frost and Sio might come in.
7As (Allan Ala'alatoa), Banks, Fainga'a, Ikitau, Lolesio, Samu, Slipper, Swain, Valetini, White and Wright will all be in the squad.
Silverado
Dick Tooth (41)
I would add Simone and think almost all of them will be in the 23. JP and Paisami will find it tough to get in, so more Brums, less others
Adam84
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
I know you think little of Reds fans after idiot-gate, but that’s just a silly comment
Tomikin
Simon Poidevin (60)
I was just having a dig back at Adam for saying there was two many Brumbies last year.
I could realistically see a case for only one of our pack starting being Bobby V.
I'd have White, Ikitua and probably Banks although if Petiea gets more time at fullback he is an option.
Slipper / AAA will be on the bench .. possible Swain Samu and a back Noah / Wright maybe
Adam84
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
But I didn’t say that..
My comment about expanding the match-day squad was in reply to the suggestion there will be more Brumbies players in the Wallabies then last year.
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Jimmy_Crouch
Ken Catchpole (46)
Sorry I did forget to mention Irae Simone but I think he will miss out too.
I don't think Paisami (12 or 13) or Petaia (11,13,14 or 15) are competing against Simone (12). His competition is really Samu Kerevi, Lalakai Foketi and Matt To'omua.
Kerevi is a lock. To'omua doesnt make it due to his head injuries and form so on current form (which is pretty similar) I'd go with Foketi based on the fact he is sticking around and Simone is going OS but neither will be close to starting unless their are some injuries.
Adam84
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Yeah exactly, also with the Tahs improving as well I don’t see who is included from the Brumbies that wasn’t there last year.
TSR
Mark Ella (57)
I won’t be surprised if Neville makes it, but won’t be surprised if he misses out either.
6 remains a pretty open position IMO. I think Leota did well last year, but not to the point where he has locked down the spot. You’d have to think Swinton is pretty much out of contention unless he comes back very soon. I don’t think Hanigan would be in the mix for me at present although I probably have a higher opinion of him then many. I’d like to see Uru get a shot, but I think too many others are probably in front of him.
In terms of form, Wilson & Valetini have been consistently outstanding in terms of backrowers, but Holloway and Frost have also been very good and, IMO, have qualities that I think could convert well into a test level 6. As good as Wilson has been, Valetini’s form and the lineout prowess of some of the other options may well work against him.
6 remains a pretty open position IMO. I think Leota did well last year, but not to the point where he has locked down the spot. You’d have to think Swinton is pretty much out of contention unless he comes back very soon. I don’t think Hanigan would be in the mix for me at present although I probably have a higher opinion of him then many. I’d like to see Uru get a shot, but I think too many others are probably in front of him.
In terms of form, Wilson & Valetini have been consistently outstanding in terms of backrowers, but Holloway and Frost have also been very good and, IMO, have qualities that I think could convert well into a test level 6. As good as Wilson has been, Valetini’s form and the lineout prowess of some of the other options may well work against him.
Silverado
Dick Tooth (41)
I'm not talking about the squad. More the starting 15. Frost abd maybe Swain. Vallentini is a certainty Simone a bolter. Perese the only bolter from the Tahs. I don't really care. It was just an observation based on current form and I'm hardly a selector but nearly half of the 23 will be Brumbies
Adam84
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Simone? Maybe in the squad.. but starting XV? doubt it.
Rest of them like White, Lolelesio, Banks, AAA, Slipper, Valetini, Samu, Wright, Ikitau, Swain, Fainga'a were all regular starters/match-day 23 last year. Realistically the only one who wasn’t there last year but will probably be included this year is Frost. Although he is departing and the return of Rodda and Holloway has thrown up extra competition at lock.
Silverado
Dick Tooth (41)
Simone's was the form 12 this round IMHO. I dont know if Paisami is injured but he isn't in great form. As I said , I'm not a selector and presumably neither are you, so I guess we wait for the team to be announced
whitefalcon
Bob Loudon (25)
Adam84
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
No, I’m not a selector, I was just replying to your comment about selections.
Silverado
Dick Tooth (41)
It's the way you questioned my selections that made me think you must have some superior knowledge