Genia has not been consistent (is that Genia, injury or playing at the Reds under RG? dunno), but he has a better, smarter kick than White (not longer) and has a much better running game
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Genia has not been consistent (is that Genia, injury or playing at the Reds under RG? dunno), but he has a better, smarter kick than White (not longer) and has a much better running game
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Surely a 3rd halfback offers more value than 7 loosies. 4 will play in a game. 5 on an odd bench. Still 2 surplus.
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So his justification is partnerships that have never been tried won't work?
If Farr-Jones and Lynagh managed to combine back in the days of restrictions on test teams training, surely Phipps and Cooper could make things work.
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Rod McCall (65)
I agree..I hope and think it will be tried.
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Mark Ella (57)
Horwill has performed well in recent months and deserves to go but I reckon he will stay at home. Cheika will look forward to the younger guys
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John Eales (66)
You're kidding yourself if you think Horwill won't be in the 31. I think most posters here would be surprised if he wasn't in the best 23 come RWC.
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Yeah you're probably right Scrubber. Cheika has plowed 3 of 4 lead in games into Horwill but now he'll probably leave him home for a younger bloke like Arnold that he hasn't even bothered to play.
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Mark Ella (57)
Notice a touch of scarcasim in your post.
As you are aware I was critical of James in nthe past for lack of performance. I believe he has turned that around. If it was my call he would be on the plane, but my name is not Cheika.
Suppose all will be revealed about 11 am.
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Mark Ella (57)
Train, I'll meet you in the egg aisle at the local Burleigh IGA where they have the googs on special. Suppose one of us will need to buy a carton
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Have a great day
PS I think Arnold has as much chance of going as you or I
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Have a great day
PS I think Arnold has as much chance of going as you or I
With White out, I'm betting Douglas will on the plane and we'll have 18 forwards including 5 locks (Horwill, Simmons, Skelton, Mumm, Douglas). Palu and McCalman will both go as number 8s.
13 backs will be Phipps, Genia, Foley, Cooper, To'omua, Giteau, Kuridrani, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Mitchell, Horne, Speight/Tomane, Folau, Beale.
Still not sure who is going to get the nod out of Tomane and Speight.
13 backs will be Phipps, Genia, Foley, Cooper, To'omua, Giteau, Kuridrani, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Mitchell, Horne, Speight/Tomane, Folau, Beale.
Still not sure who is going to get the nod out of Tomane and Speight.
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Mark Ella (57)
It should be out of Horne/Speight/Tomane. I wouldn't be surprised if he left Horne.
If Horne has recovered, I think he'll go. Tomane and Speight are very similar in the way they play. Horne has more versatility and offers something a bit different.
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I think if Horne won't be fit for the Fiji game he may be left. But if he will be he will likely go. Was first choice and whilst neither Tomane or Speight have been poor, neither have cemented a spot in their opportunity.
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Mark Ella (57)
But did Horne cement his spot with his first start? I'd say Tomane was the better performer - but he is also the most limited player. Speight and Horne are much better defenders.
It's another tricky one in my opinion. Horne could cover 12,13,14 from the bench which might get him the nod - plus his super xv form he was clearly the favourite. But then I doubt he has the pace to score the try Tomane scored.
Speight is by far the most rounded, just as good defender as Horne (if not better) and a better attacker - but also the poorest performer out of the 3 at Test level.
I also wouldn't be surprised if Cheika only took one, since Mitchells kicking ability would probably make him first choice anyway.
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Simon Poidevin (60)
Spoken like a Rebel's fan, Stirzaker has not been playing better then White .. Ever.. not just the last few years..
I agree completely that if they still think Horne is a month away he'll be left out. It's hard to imagine that is the case though. All reports suggested his injury wasn't serious.
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Mark Ella (57)
I thought Chieka stated in his TV interview Horne and Genia were back to full fitness this week.
On that basis, Horne will definitely be in the squad.
The only argument for taking both Tomane and Speight seems to be that leaving one of them out is harsh on that person. They're not our first choice wing pairing and possibly neither of them will be in our first choice pairing.
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