Waratahs 2021

[Rebels3]

For one thing, Wright has a lot more skills than just catching the ball and putting it over the line, he's a very complete player.
More generally, I don't think the 'signing league players is always doomed to fail' argument stacks up. Yes, there have been some momentous failures (Moeroa certainly one) but I would suggest there have been plenty of successes too. Mat Rogers, Lote Tuqiri, Isi Folau before he went all homophobic, and plenty more.

Also depends what you want to classify as league players.

Rocky Elsom and Wyclif Palu were both in the league system before playing Super Rugby.

 

[Dctarget]

Sam Wykes has retired.

 

[Kenny Powers]

but I would suggest there have been plenty of successes too. Mat Rogers, Lote Tuqiri, Isi Folau before he went all homophobic, and plenty more.

Character issues that saw all return to league.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Also depends what you want to classify as league players.

Rocky Elsom and Wyclif Palu were both in the league system before playing Super Rugby.

Neither established themselves in the top grade league, they returned after one or two seasons and most likely after their options in league ran out. So not really culturally indoctrinated into league kind of the same as Tom Wright.

Established League players as a whole have drained more cash and resources from Union than they ever put back into the sport and I highly doubt anyone will want to argue that point.

I dislike how our administrators fall over league players and how they treat the sport of Rugby Union, and I have a special hatred for those administrators.

 

[formerflanker]

Also depends what you want to classify as league players.

Rocky Elsom and Wyclif Palu were both in the league system before playing Super Rugby.

I seem to remember Cliffy playing Colts rugby for Manly before his league stint.

 

[KOB1987]

Thank fuck that’s over.

Mods, can we delete this thread now please?

 

[Blackadder]

I am starting to think of giving league a go next year..

Cool, what position will you play

 

[Bandar]

Agreed, thank fuck 2021 is done, looking forward to next year, can’t go any worse

 

[Blackadder]

Agreed, thank fuck 2021 is done, looking forward to next year, can’t go any worse

Don't jinx it

 

[Froggy]

So, what was primarily wrong with 2021?
Firstly, lack of a good head coach to hold things together. Now, I genuinely don't know whether that was Penney or not, never will, but it certainly achieved absolutely nothing sacking him mid-season. Given a full season, we would be in a far better position to judge. It is imperative we appoint someone next year with runs on the board, and given their starting point, back them for at least three years.

Secondly was obviously defence, in so many different ways. That's Gilmore's role, he has to take responsibility and must go. That he has put his hand up for the top job is mind-blowing.

Thirdly, lack of experienced heads to guide a team of youngsters around the park. The loss of Simmons, Hooper and Hunt I believe is far greater than people imagine.

Finally, a lack of Super level players in a couple of key positions, specifically Tight Head Prop, Lock and one wing.

 

[Froggy]

Were there any positives? As opposed to some of the 'piss off the lot of them' posters here, and being, I guess, a natural optimist, I think there were.

Firstly, I think we have an outstanding group of youngsters, who just need good coaching, guidance on the field and time and can be the nucleus of a great side. Bell, Horton, Cotton, Douglas, Williams, Woods, Tizzano, Harris, Harrison, Donaldson, Walton, Robertson and Ramm I think are all stars of the future, and I would like us to hold onto all of them.

Secondly, Perese has been a massive get. It's a mouth-watering thought as to what he could do in a team going forward.

Finally, the leadership shown by Jake Gordon has been exceptional. I would really like to see him continue as Tahs captain in 2022.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

Were there any positives? As opposed to some of the 'piss off the lot of them' posters here, and being, I guess, a natural optimist, I think there were.

Firstly, I think we have an outstanding group of youngsters, who just need good coaching, guidance on the field and time and can be the nucleus of a great side. Bell, Horton, Cotton, Douglas, Williams, Woods, Tizzano, Harris, Harrison, Donaldson, Walton, Robertson and Ramm I think are all stars of the future, and I would like us to hold onto all of them.

Secondly, Perese has been a massive get. It's a mouth-watering thought as to what he could do in a team going forward.

Finally, the leadership shown by Jake Gordon has been exceptional. I would really like to see him continue as Tahs captain in 2022.

What do we think of the new dude with long hypenated name who has returned from Japan to oz rugby...he looks alright

 

[Blackadder]

What do we think of the new dude with long hypenated name who has returned from Japan to oz rugby.he looks alright

You mean Rahboni Warren-Vosayaco??

 

[Dctarget]

What do we think of the new dude with long hypenated name who has returned from Japan to oz rugby.he looks alright

He's great. Was one of the sunwolves best players. Thought he was a 12 back then.

One worry is that playing for the Sunwolves and now the Waratahs the poor bloke is probably clinically depressed. Need to get him some wins.

 

[Froggy]

Have only seen him the last fortnight, yep looks good.
With Hooper, Swinton, Harris, Warren-Vosayaco, Tezzano, Gamble, and possibly Sinclair and Hanigan if they don't play lock, the back row is one of the few spots we do have covered for 2022.

 

[RebelYell]

Serious question - who wins, this weekend's Tahs or the LA Giltinis?

 

[Blackadder]

Serious question - who wins, this weekend's Tahs or the LA Giltinis?

Godzilla

 

[Rugbynutter39]

Have only seen him the last fortnight, yep looks good.
With Hooper, Swinton, Harris, Warren-Vosayaco, Tezzano, Gamble, and possibly Sinclair and Hanigan if they don't play lock, the back row is one of the few spots we do have covered for 2022.

Can just imagine how

Were there any positives? As opposed to some of the 'piss off the lot of them' posters here, and being, I guess, a natural optimist, I think there were.

Firstly, I think we have an outstanding group of youngsters, who just need good coaching, guidance on the field and time and can be the nucleus of a great side. Bell, Horton, Cotton, Douglas, Williams, Woods, Tizzano, Harris, Harrison, Donaldson, Walton, Robertson and Ramm I think are all stars of the future, and I would like us to hold onto all of them.

Secondly, Perese has been a massive get. It's a mouth-watering thought as to what he could do in a team going forward.

Finally, the leadership shown by Jake Gordon has been exceptional. I would really like to see him continue as Tahs captain in 2022.

Were there any positives? As opposed to some of the 'piss off the lot of them' posters here, and being, I guess, a natural optimist, I think there were.

Firstly, I think we have an outstanding group of youngsters, who just need good coaching, guidance on the field and time and can be the nucleus of a great side. Bell, Horton, Cotton, Douglas, Williams, Woods, Tizzano, Harris, Harrison, Donaldson, Walton, Robertson and Ramm I think are all stars of the future, and I would like us to hold onto all of them.

Secondly, Perese has been a massive get. It's a mouth-watering thought as to what he could do in a team going forward.

Finally, the leadership shown by Jake Gordon has been exceptional. I would really like to see him continue as Tahs captain in 2022.

A lot of these players would benefit from an nrc mark 2 following now - hopefully next year

 

[Blackadder]

Did the Tahs announce who else was confirmed as leaving at the home game??

So far Dempsey, Moeroa and Wykes are confirmed and looks like Maddocks is off to France.

 

[Sheepie]

Robbie Abel also gone. Unsure if he's going somewhere or just not getting contract renewed.