Waratahs vs Cantabs. Saturday, April 30, 2022
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Phil Kearns (64)
His father Steve played a lot of league, very well regarded.
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Tim Horan (67)
I sorry mate, I have to disagree about Tahs beating an understrength Crusader's team, they simply beat the Crusaders, and to say the Crusaders were understrength is to perhaps hint at not enough credit to Tahs! They were bloody good!
I can't think of any Crusader's players that were available that would of made a huge difference. Tahs won that in forwards where they basically just belted the Crusaders at the breakdown, that not taking away from Tahs' backs either.
Very good performance and shows that a large part of rugby is the yop 10% and just mentally tearing into it!
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Tim Horan (67)
Well I played at time in front row, and not a Crusaders fan, but KOB WOB was right, the minute your shoulder goes below hips you hinging , it was pretty clear that what was happening to Bell, I wondered if he needed to just move feet back a little to avoid it. He was getting called by O'Keeke and the RA on sideline for it it seems, so they seemed to be getting same picture.
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Phil Kearns (64)
For the record, Ed is a product of Epping Boys High School. He is employed at the private school.
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Mark Ella (57)
Yeah - I saw it. Wonderful to see.
im obviously being tongue in cheek with my earlier posts, but I don’t mean to be disrespectful to Ed. Glad to see him get another crack and seeing him with all the kids who clearly loved it was great.
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Dick Tooth (41)
Leichard ticks a lot of boxes. Great size ground for a Tahs Super Rugby ground. 10k nearly filled the place as opposed to bigger stadium, so the atmosphere was not like I've seen at a Tahs game since the glory days. On the downside, it's not easy to get to and from, the beer line EAS at times ridiculous (although it was full strength
and the line to get in stretched back around 100m at kick off, so a lot of punters missed the first try and would have been dirty. Not much can be done about the first problem, but hopefully they can fix the other 2 because with a performance like that you'd expect the crowds to grow. It actually felt like a home game
and the line to get in stretched back around 100m at kick off, so a lot of punters missed the first try and would have been dirty. Not much can be done about the first problem, but hopefully they can fix the other 2 because with a performance like that you'd expect the crowds to grow. It actually felt like a home game
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Mark Ella (57)
I feel a bit like the Tahs just got praised from their grumpy old dad whose normal feedback is something along the lines of a mumbled ‘God gave you shoulders for a reason son’
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John Eales (66)
How awesome would be as a teenage lad having on one of your teachers running around at the elite level on the weekend. My younger sister had a teacher in primary school who played top level footy and we all thought he was the coolest bloke in the world. My boy had a coach in his last two years at school (he's just finished) who played test cricket and he and his mates absolutely worshipped the bloke (top fella too).
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John Solomon (38)
Nothing original from me, but the atmosphere on the hill was fantastic, I think my best rugby moment since 2015. It was a bit quiet at kick off, but with the crowd still streaming in, and the full-throttle start from the Tahs, it built and built. Those TMO interventions for high tackles can be frustrating, but bloody hell, they're raw meat for a fired-up crowd.
Vailanu won't be third-string hooker for long - his metres after contact were impressive. Same with Pietsch. I think we gave away maybe 2 penalties for holding on in the attacking ruck? Incredibly few against a Kiwi side, evidence of the strength of runners into contact and great backup.
The Tahs seemed to have such confidence in their defence, and for good reason. As the Saders tried to up the physicality late, the Tahs just did the same. So different to last week when it seemed the Chiefs could rely on easy metres. The starting forwards were absolutely spent by about 75 min, I don't know how they finished it off.
Vailanu won't be third-string hooker for long - his metres after contact were impressive. Same with Pietsch. I think we gave away maybe 2 penalties for holding on in the attacking ruck? Incredibly few against a Kiwi side, evidence of the strength of runners into contact and great backup.
The Tahs seemed to have such confidence in their defence, and for good reason. As the Saders tried to up the physicality late, the Tahs just did the same. So different to last week when it seemed the Chiefs could rely on easy metres. The starting forwards were absolutely spent by about 75 min, I don't know how they finished it off.
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Mark Ella (57)
One of the really pleasing things last night was how strong the crowd was. Obviously winning games and playing better rugby are going to be the two big things there.
But those little things like Coleman’s connections with Shute Shield and Ed Craig’s connection with the next gen can’t be underestimated. In fact those sorts of things are hugely important because a genuine connection with grass roots and with new, young fans is vastly important.
Hopefully some more of them even end up on here.
But those little things like Coleman’s connections with Shute Shield and Ed Craig’s connection with the next gen can’t be underestimated. In fact those sorts of things are hugely important because a genuine connection with grass roots and with new, young fans is vastly important.
Hopefully some more of them even end up on here.
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Ken Catchpole (46)
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Mark Ella (57)
I largely agree - but it not completely inconsistent. From memory one of the Reds players got the exact same leniency Friday night.
In any case that is how I believe it should be reffed and that is the standard I would like to see applied. I am all for punishing poor technique or lack of effort which leads to head contact but, in this case, the defender did everything that is asked of him under the law requirements and, even with the utmost respect to player welfare, I don’t think we should punish players where they have done nothing wrong (it doesn’t help that he is an enormous human).
In any case that is how I believe it should be reffed and that is the standard I would like to see applied. I am all for punishing poor technique or lack of effort which leads to head contact but, in this case, the defender did everything that is asked of him under the law requirements and, even with the utmost respect to player welfare, I don’t think we should punish players where they have done nothing wrong (it doesn’t help that he is an enormous human).
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Mark Ella (57)
No - that’s not how it works (to my understanding). If it is foul play than the entry point is a Red card and it can be downgraded one level to yellow with mitigation.
If it’s not foul play then it’s not foul play (whether reckless or careless) and there is no sanction.
I agree it’s inconsistently applied - but it’s not the first such ruling and the same rational has been used on contact in the air and tackling which turns the attacker past the horizontal. Part of the problem is that is subjective but, IMO, O’Keefe was 100% right.
Put it this way - if that was a Tah defender I would have thought it was unfair. If a defender does all the right things but the attacker twists and drops into their shoulder, how can you penalise them defende for that.
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