2012 Rugby Championship Game 2 New Zealand vs Australia - 25 August

[Scott Allen]

Isn't it a bit of a chicken and egg argument though?

Did the ball get to the point where it should be caught too early or did the jumper get there too late?

No, there are tell tale signs so you can decipher what really happened.

For example in the first lineout lost, the timing of the throw matches Sharpe and Robinson but not Dennis. It is Robinson that had to run around Timani to move back in the lineout and lift Sharpe (and therefore he has the furthest to move to get into position). This makes Robinson the trigger - the hooker knows not to throw the ball until Robinson's in position. The trigger is different for each lineout - sometimes it is the front lifter, sometimes the jumper but less often the back lifter.

In this lineout Moore has to assume Dennis will get into position as he's watching the front man. As Sharpe is not jumping right at the front of the lineout the ball must be thrown just before Sharpe leaves the ground.

Go down to frame by frame speed and Moore throws the ball exactly at the right time. However, Dennis was slower into position than Robinson, did not get low enough to drive up dynamically and at no stage got his arms fully extended. The fact that Sharpe leans back to try and save the situation is not about the timing of the throw.

 

[Braveheart81]

Thanks for the analysis Scott.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Is there an analysis of the kicking from the Men in Gold?

This was probably the most frustrating aspect of the game as viewed from Chez Jarse.

 

[Scott Allen]

Thanks for the analysis Scott.

No problem - my lineout analysis later in the week includes examples of TPN getting it right the previous week as well. I must say both throwers have been really good in the last two weeks - I suspect Andrew Blades has been working them hard. Now there are other issues that need to be worked on to get the Wallabies lineout back near the best in the world.

Also, whilst I pinpoint Dennis as the issue in that lineout, he's not the only one who needs to work on his technique.

 

[Scott Allen]

Is there an analysis of the kicking from the Men in Gold?

This was probably the most frustrating aspect of the game as viewed from Chez Jarse.

As we've got a two week break I'm going to cover the following areas in that time from the last two games:

1. Back line attack;
2. Scrum;
3. Lineout;
4. Kicking;
5. Attack shape;
6. Defence

 

[Sir Arthur Higgins]

got some early morning mail today from a mate who went over to auckland, he returned to the hotel (same one as the wobblies) after dinner and drinks at just after midnight and guess who was sinking beers in the hotel bar? Quade and Kurtley
a solid professional attitude no doubt.

 

[Braveheart81]

They were probably waiting until they got the call from SBW to hit the nightclub.

 

[Richo]

As we've got a two week break I'm going to cover the following areas in that time from the last two games:

1. Back line attack;
2. Scrum;
3. Lineout;
4. Kicking;
5. Attack shape;
6. Defence

This might help me make it through the two weeks. Looking forward to it.

 

[Dumbledore]

got some early morning mail today from a mate who went over to auckland, he returned to the hotel (same one as the wobblies) after dinner and drinks at just after midnight and guess who was sinking beers in the hotel bar? Quade and Kurtley
a solid professional attitude no doubt.

Absolute fucking morons. So over this sort of thing.

 

[Richo]

Absolute fucking morons. So over this sort of thing.

At least they were in the hotel bar and not at a club. Baby steps.

 

[Braveheart81]

Can't they go back to the good old days where they just got drunk in their hotel room whilst playing XboX and having a punch up?

 

[Swat]

They were probably waiting until they got the call from SBW to hit the nightclub.

As long as it wasn't with Zac Guildford..............

 

[RugbyReg]

got some early morning mail today from a mate who went over to auckland, he returned to the hotel (same one as the wobblies) after dinner and drinks at just after midnight and guess who was sinking beers in the hotel bar? Quade and Kurtley
a solid professional attitude no doubt.

what's the issue with this? Personally I have no problem with it. It was a 7.40pm game, finishes roughly a couple of hours later. Give them at least an hour after that to shower, interview, (drug tests?? who knows), any post match commitments, and then back at the hotel around 11pm where they'd have some sort of team dinner probably.

So I'd say a couple of beers in the hotel bar after that as a night cap is fine. As mentioned by others, if it was 3 or 4 hours later in a night club, then I'd be concerned. But a couple of quities in the hotel bar as a night cap? Pfft, that's fine by me.

 

[Swat]

But a couple of quities in the hotel bar

I hope you didn't mean quitters.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

got some early morning mail today from a mate who went over to auckland, he returned to the hotel (same one as the wobblies) after dinner and drinks at just after midnight and guess who was sinking beers in the hotel bar? Quade and Kurtley
a solid professional attitude no doubt.

Cant be right: there's no complaints of biffo with bouncers on the NZ herald website.

 

[Sir Arthur Higgins]

got some early morning mail today from a mate who went over to auckland, he returned to the hotel (same one as the wobblies) after dinner and drinks at just after midnight and guess who was sinking beers in the hotel bar? Quade and Kurtley
a solid professional attitude no doubt.

sorry - a couple quiet ones and this is on FRIDAY night

 

[Sir Arthur Higgins]

i excluded the key point....friday evening in the hotel bar drinking beers

 

[waratahjesus]

Maybe if we let Quade and kurtley get drunk pre game they will at least be up for a fight come kick off.

They already finish with "I love you man" may as well give it a try.

 

[Bernie_Larkham]

i thought he was dangerous all night..you??

Ah so this performance changes the past does it? Excellent re-write of history. SBW played well, still isnt Gods gift until he does that on a regular basis...

 

[Swat]

sorry - a couple quiet ones and this is on FRIDAY night

Someone tell Phil Waugh so he can tear them both a new one.