Who should be the next ARU CEO?

[It is what it is]

If Calcraft is appointed just imagine how interfering his ex coach 'the parrot' will become.

 

[Lindommer]

Another one from the leather patch brigade: Calcraft, Scots Old Boy and a Manly player. I hope to God this inside info is off the money and someone fresh from well outside rugby and its "disappearing up its fundament" mentality gets the job. The template for our sport's advancement should be the appointment, and subsequent success, of Jim Carmichael at the QRU.

 

[Lindommer]

There's a rumour coming out of Channel 10, a snout's tweeted Bill Pulver will be the pea. Another from the leather patch brigade: Old Boy of Shore (Hawker's alma mater) and a Mosman resident. Do I detect the current ARU board haven't been looking far from the tree?

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

There's a rumour coming out of Channel 10, a snout's tweeted Bill Pulver will be the pea. Another from the leather patch brigade: Old Boy of Shore (Hawker's alma mater) and a Mosman resident. Do I detect the current ARU board haven't been looking far from the tree?

Both bankers are they not? Not too sure we should be going down that track again.

 

[Braveheart81]

Bill Pulver as in the father of the fake collar bomb girl? He would seem to be a stranger choice than Calcraft.

The rumours are certainly flying thick and fast this morning.

 

[daz]

There's a rumour coming out of Channel 10, a snout's tweeted Bill Pulver will be the pea. Another from the leather patch brigade: Old Boy of Shore (Hawker's alma mater) and a Mosman resident. Do I detect the current ARU board haven't been looking far from the tree?

I really should wait until I know the actual person, but gee Linds, those names you are throwing around are not filling me with any confidence that the ARU is gearing up to move into the 21st century.

More like the 19th century.

 

[Braveheart81]

Rugby Gold is reporting that Pulver will be announced as the new CEO as well.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...lian-rugby-union/story-fn8t7efs-1226550229176

 

[I like to watch]

It's a negative that Calcraft has no up to date knowledge of the sporting landscape in Oz, it's also a negative that he has ties in the game that can be perceived at bias down the track?
(Look at Cheika & the Tah's...lot's of tough talk, but already examples of favouritism with his former club Randwick)

Can anyone confim whether Carmichael is in fact a candidate?
He has a track record that I believe no other candidate can match.
To my mind, the only acceptable explanation for him not to be appointed would be that he said no to the role!

 

[Lindommer]

Bill Pulver as in the father of the fake collar bomb girl?

He is, and I deliberately didn't mention that. From what I know he's the CEO of an IT business, software I think.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

It's a negative that Calcraft has no up to date knowledge of the sporting landscape in Oz, it's also a negative that he has ties in the game that can be perceived at bias down the track?
(Look at Cheika & the Tah's.lot's of tough talk, but already examples of favouritism with his former club Randwick)

Can anyone confim whether Carmichael is in fact a candidate?
He has a track record that I believe no other candidate can match.
To my mind, the only acceptable explanation for him not to be appointed would be that he said no to the role!

I'm sorry but how so? How many Randwick players that are currently with the Tahs? If you're referring to coaching staff, perhaps he has a playing style in mind and is looking to those familiar with it. Not being defensive or condescending, just genuinely interested in the club biases that are creeping in as regardless of allegiances, I don't think it's wise to just fall into line club wise.

 

[barbarian]

I think the analysis presented by a few here (that Sydney private school + businessman = spineless leather patch lapdog) is a bit simplistic. As is the assumption that an 'outsider' would be a great thing regardless of their background or expertise.

I for one will hold my judgement until we see what the new bloke (whoever he may be) is made of.
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[WorkingClassRugger]

He is, and I deliberately didn't mention that. From what I know he's the CEO of an IT business, software I think.

Doesn't he also have experience in the US or something? Thought he was a banker of sorts. Would have preferred someone with more sports admin experience within Australia of the likes of the former 3IC of the AFL (his name eludes me at this time).

 

[p.Tah]

Because the fact he is a 'mate' will often cause flaws to be glossed over.. Worse still it also places the new person in the precarious position of providing oversight of mates and former teammates/colleagues, where the organizations best interests may not be the same as the 'friendship'..

That depends on the individuals involved. I've seen examples where 'mates' have worked and where it hasn't. My concern was that the rumoured appointment was immediately dismissed as "jobs for mates".

 

[p.Tah]

anyway I thought they were looking for someone with broadcast/media experience as one of their strings.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

I think the analysis presented by a few here (that Sydney private school + businessman = spineless leather patch lapdog) is a bit simplistic. As is the assumption that an 'outsider' would be a great thing regardless of their background or expertise.

I for one will hold my judgement until we see what the new bloke (whoever he may be) is made of.
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Chances are if you looked up many potential candidates regardless of state or nation of origin you'd likely find 'leather patch' like backgrounds. Those types of schools with their histories and connections that come with them tend to breed these sought of individuals. I have no issue with that. It just seems that both names going around seem a little lacking in originality and imagination.

 

[Lindommer]

I think the analysis presented by a few here (that Sydney private school + businessman = spineless leather patch lapdog) is a bit simplistic.

Yer right, b, it is a bit simplistic. My point is if rugby's fair dinkum about expanding the code into new areas/markets/communities doing what we've done in the past (Sydney private school + businessman) isn't going to cut it. Both you and I come from that Sydney private school background but, as much as I enjoyed it (and sent my son to my alma mater), if we want rugby to prosper in today's brave new professional world a fresh approach is needed. I repeat my earlier point re Carmichael. The AFL leave other sports and codes for dead in the management stakes in Oz, I'd be looking there if it was me.

 

[barbarian]

Chances are if you looked up many potential candidates regardless of state or nation of origin you'd likely find 'leather patch' like backgrounds. Those types of schools with their histories and connections that come with them tend to breed these sought of individuals. I have no issue with that. It just seems that both names going around seem a little lacking in originality and imagination.

But what does this mean, and how is it a good thing?

When you are looking for a CEO, I don't care about 'originality' and 'imagination', I'm not writing a sitcom for fuck's sake. You want the best man for the job.

First and foremost you want business credentials. That is the primary job of the CEO, to keep the game financially viable. Then you go for the 'gravy'- background, vision etc.

I just don't understand how some here can judge a man's background, ambition and vision for our game purely on where he lives and where he went to school.
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[barbarian]

Yer right, b, it is a bit simplistic. My point is if rugby's fair dinkum about expanding the code into new areas/markets/communities doing what we've done in the past (Sydney private school + businessman) isn't going to cut it. Both you and I come from that Sydney private school background and, as much as I enjoyed it (and sent my son to my alma mater), repeating what rugby did in the past in today's brave new professional world isn't going to cut it. I repeat my earlier point re Carmichael. The AFL leave other sports and codes for dead in the management stakes in Oz, I'd be looking there if it was me.

But Lindo, how does going to a private school mean that he will be limited to an 'old world' view?

I went to the same school as Pulver, and if I was installed as ARU CEO tomorrow I would certainly look to increase the presence of the game in non-traditional areas. I hope Pulver is the same, and I don't see his background as a hindrance to that aim. Why? Because expansion is a smart thing to do, and he is a smart businessman. A bit simplistic I know. But still, one can hope.
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[p.Tah]

anyway I thought they were looking for someone with broadcast/media experience as one of their strings.

from Pulvers CV

Bill Pulver is CEO of Appen Butler Hill and is based in the firm’s global headquarters in Sydney. Bill joined Appen as Chief Executive in April 2010 after a distinguished career in international business management.
He served as President and Chief Executive Officer of NetRatings, Inc., a NASDAQ listed company (NTRT), headquartered in New York and specializing in Internet Media and Market Research. Bill led NetRatings until it was bought by The Nielsen Company in June 2007 and was responsible for its extensive growth through organic product development and acquisitions.
From 1999–2001 Bill worked in London as President of ACNielsen eRatings.com, an Internet Audience Measurement company, where he was responsible for the rollout of the Nielsen//NetRatings service into 30 countries before the company was acquired by NetRatings, Inc. in 2002.
From 1997–1999 he was based in Tokyo as Group Chief Executive, ACNielsen Japan and Korea, where he was responsible for retail measurement services, customized research, media measurement services, modeling and analytics, as well as a Korean joint venture in consumer panel services.
From 1980–1997 Bill worked with ACNielsen in Australia where he was Managing Director, ACNielsen Australia before becoming Regional Director for the Pacific.
He holds a Bachelor of Commerce degree, with a major in Marketing, from the University of NSW, Australia.

http://www.appenbutlerhill.com/leadership

Internet Media - perhaps this is the bold new world the broadcast deals are heading down?

 

[Scott Allen]

According to the Shore School website Bill Pulver has a son Angus who finished last year.

Is that the same Angus Pulver who was Aussie schools #9 and according to the Colts post is going to be playing at Sydney Uni this year?