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I agree. Let's fucking scrap this 56 years of tradition. Bring back the green!
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This is exactly why the Wallabies will remain in a gold jersey.
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Cyril Towers (30)
England ;-). I hear they'll be wearing gold jerseys in this year's EOYT game against us.
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lets also point out the technical shade of green for australia is wattle green, its a blue/green shade and not the deep myrtle green of the type you're talking about. Observe:
Don't get me wrong....ask the other people around here, I love jerseys and wild jersey designs but creating a green jersey would just be idiotic.
Prefer a heritage jersey or training design.
Traditionally in rugby we go by single jerseys usually, One of the things that league have trumped us on is their farce of a history and its traditions (most of which are based on the colours and traditions of our clubs). Doesn't quite make sense, but it comes from a group of people and a code who are desperately trying to find the balance between a deeply based tradition and creating a modern game. Destroying that tradition for merchandising which won't work, would be a step in the wrong direction.
They already have a different jersey for the sevens anyway.
Don't get me wrong....ask the other people around here, I love jerseys and wild jersey designs but creating a green jersey would just be idiotic.
Prefer a heritage jersey or training design.
Traditionally in rugby we go by single jerseys usually, One of the things that league have trumped us on is their farce of a history and its traditions (most of which are based on the colours and traditions of our clubs). Doesn't quite make sense, but it comes from a group of people and a code who are desperately trying to find the balance between a deeply based tradition and creating a modern game. Destroying that tradition for merchandising which won't work, would be a step in the wrong direction.
They already have a different jersey for the sevens anyway.
If there's one guy that knows jerseys, it's RugbyFuture!
TahDan
Cyril Towers (30)
Well yes, but then the Wallabies use 'bottle green', so that's not exactly accurate either.
Well, again, I'm basically angling for it an alternate jersey in the style of the England ones (at least in so far as it's one not often worn by the team). More just something for the fans.
This doesn't quite make sense as a sentence... are you saying that League some how stole the notion of historical consistency from Union? Or simply that they've executed it better?
The English National Rugby Union team has pioneered employing a vast array of sometimes cynical marketing tactics to get people buying kit and going to games - certainly more than Australia's international rugby league team (who again haven't changed their basic design in 85 years).
Now, whatever else you may say about the poms, one thing is for sure: their game is in infinitely better financial shape that ours, which is increasingly being called "the sick man of Australian football".
7s jerseys are always horrid... I honestly don't know what they're thinking when they design them.
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He's saying a number of League clubs were Union clubs that moved to league and claim that original union tradition as league.
TahDan
Cyril Towers (30)
In terms of the colours they used, that's mostly correct - in some cases the colours were taken from rowing clubs however (balmain for example). But to be fair, the split occurred because of class stratification.
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I'm not just talking about colours, I'm talking about them always highlighting tradition. Rugby for some reason doesn't do this nearly enough. Even their relatively new anzac day traditions are a farce.
The RFU are in a better financial situation not because of merchandising, in fact I would say they would probably have a higher break even point for that, its because they're the dominant second tier code after soccer with no other competitor. You could also say that they have a more direct influence over the style of game they want rugby to be plus a more direct control over their club structures and broadcasting deals.
The RFU are in a better financial situation not because of merchandising, in fact I would say they would probably have a higher break even point for that, its because they're the dominant second tier code after soccer with no other competitor. You could also say that they have a more direct influence over the style of game they want rugby to be plus a more direct control over their club structures and broadcasting deals.
TahDan
Cyril Towers (30)
Of course they are mostly a farce. That said, Rugby League has been higher profile for a longer time because of its professional status, so its traditions at the club level for those older teams like Souths and Easts are worth more because of the long standing media profile and more publically recognisable personalities associated with them.
Union has just come to the market to sell our product a little too late, and so our traditions are necessarily viewed as more "quaint" than those of Rugby League. I absolutely agree that more should be done to sell them, but the sad fact is that Rugby in this country has been dreadfully run of late, and even during the prosperous early 00s not enough was done to develop the game (the NRC should have been started after the '03 RWC).
I'd argue club rugby in Sydney is where the League club scene was at in the 1950s, and that's a poor reflection on us.
That's definitely a factor, but things like having more control over broadcasting deals are down to better management skills. The game didn't HAVE to sell its soul to murdoch here - it was just lack of foresight and the clamor for quick cash that saw that happen.
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Bill McLean (32)
Probably only needed for a World Cup in the off chance the Wallabies play Romania and they are the designated home team. Don't think the Wallabies would play them otherwise.
Brasil also wears a similar colour, but it's unlikley the Wallabies will play them in the forseeable future.
Scotland, Italy, France and South Africa all clash. I'm not sure how you miss that. Also the All Blacks have clashed with Scotland and France on a number of occasions. That's why they need away kits.
The Wallabies clash with no major teams so they do not need an alternative jersey.
I do think that you are right that the green is a traditionally Aussie color-and that's why it is represented in the Wallabies jersey.
The Wallabies clash with no major teams so they do not need an alternative jersey.
I do think that you are right that the green is a traditionally Aussie color-and that's why it is represented in the Wallabies jersey.
The poms have a lot more players, a lot more clubs and as such a lot more revenue. Added to this they have a lot less serious competition from the likes of league. Its a fairly pointless comparison to make...
TahDan
Cyril Towers (30)
I never said they "needed it", just that it would be nice to have an alternate strip in an old-school green for fans.
As I said, England don't clash with anyone either, but they have a new away kit each year and they sell bloody well. I just would like the ARU to do that, but with a traditional colour.
But it's just executed so poorly. I can live with the green underarm sweat patches, as we've been copying the poms on that since 2002, but the weird green patch under the chin look like someone has spilled something on the jersey, and the Southern Cross seriously looks like a bogan tattoo the way they've done it.
Yes, a lot less competition from League, but a heck of a lot more from soccer. And League is still there - it gets more TV dollars the the English Rugby Premiership.
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