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louie
Desmond Connor (43)
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
I agree with your first point. However, having played both codes, and watched both, I have to say that there are (or were) some pretty significant differences overall.
On the subect of referees, which is a particular point of difference. In rugby, referees have always been treated with respect.
In your code, referees are tolerated (at best) and are often treated very poorly.
Some other differences. To generalise, rugby is a game that tends to be played in the older, more established, universities and schools, including the academically selective schools. Many top rugby players over the years have attained tertiary education.
In loig, it is not unusual for kids to be signed up at the age of 14, at which point they lose any interest in their education (if they ever had any).
A lot of people still play rugby for fun as adults. How many people play loig for fun?
This does say something about the respective codes, whether you like it or not.
I know what you are saying Wamberal but I think that goes to the nature of the game itself.
I don't imagine there are many people playing nfl for fun as adults compared to their junior numbers, just due to the brutality of the game.
Going for a run for the Asquith Magpies I imagine would take a lot more toll on the body both from a running perspective and a collision perspective then going for a run for the Wahroonga tigers.
I know what you mean in respect of schooling having attended both a selective school (which played rugby) but by and large followed league and had the general critical point of view regarding officialdom, and an established private school that by and large absolutely loved their officialdom. Both points of view have positives and negatives, I think each code should be trying to maintain a reasonable balance.
Louie - How should you enjoy yourselves, watch the rugby, or the rugby league. Highlights are always good.
Some really good rugby union people don't come from the same places that certain posters come from, and the trials they have endured and overcome in their life would inspire you. Either way remember the old saying about the book and its cover.
I don't imagine there are many people playing nfl for fun as adults compared to their junior numbers, just due to the brutality of the game.
Going for a run for the Asquith Magpies I imagine would take a lot more toll on the body both from a running perspective and a collision perspective then going for a run for the Wahroonga tigers.
I know what you mean in respect of schooling having attended both a selective school (which played rugby) but by and large followed league and had the general critical point of view regarding officialdom, and an established private school that by and large absolutely loved their officialdom. Both points of view have positives and negatives, I think each code should be trying to maintain a reasonable balance.
Louie - How should you enjoy yourselves, watch the rugby, or the rugby league. Highlights are always good.
Some really good rugby union people don't come from the same places that certain posters come from, and the trials they have endured and overcome in their life would inspire you. Either way remember the old saying about the book and its cover.
Godfrey
Phil Hardcastle (33)
Agreed on both points.
Having gone to many games of both codes I've found that it really doesn't bother me if the cocky, unself-aware wanker spilling beer on me as he shoves past with his hooting mates is wearing a suit or thongs. There are dickheads in every "class".
That being said, league fans have a bit of a crown at Suncorp due to the seat-pissing incident. I have seen a few potential challengers for that title at Reds games though.
p.Tah
John Thornett (49)
I'm a bit slow. Can someone explain it to me? (I know Graham injured Reynolds)
Bullrush
John Hipwell (52)
Ed Sheeran is an English pop star who is huge at the moment......the first line of his latest big hit was "When you legs don't work like they used to before"
That's him on the right
p.Tah
John Thornett (49)
Oh FFS. I'm beginning to feel for David Smith.
http://m.smh.com.au/rugby-league/sy...n-and-stealing-his-watch-20150407-1mfquy.html
http://m.smh.com.au/rugby-league/sy...n-and-stealing-his-watch-20150407-1mfquy.html
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
Smith is better off than Gallop, he has the Commission as his back-up. Gallop had to deal with the Packers, Murdochs, and all the bloody club, most of which had, and still have, huge governance problems. Without any allies.
boyo
Mark Ella (57)
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
The point about all this is, Gallop used to say that ratings and other indicators went up when there was a scandal.
No news is bad news. Any sort of media attention is good for maintaining viewership.
Drivers slow down to gawk at accidents, don't they?
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
Well, yes. Their game does struggle to maintain a good public image, for sure. It has struggled with its image for as long as I can remember, and that is a long time.
However, they are where they are now in spite of their image problems.
Our image problems are actually pretty significant. Our game is seen as elitist, slow, overly technical and pretty boring to watch.
The big difference is that the NRL is on control of its own destiny. We are not.
I like to watch
David Codey (61)
It's swings and roundabouts.
The reason why they control their destiny is because no one gives two fucks about the game outside of Sydney.
I prefer Rugby being a World game.
The reason why they control their destiny is because no one gives two fucks about the game outside of Sydney.
I prefer Rugby being a World game.
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
There's another way to look at it that arises out the James Graham fiasco: league adherents don't give a stuff about rules or laws. And i don't say that for the obvious reasons.
Did you notice that it seemingly took about 24 hours before anyone said publicly that the penalty was justified because you cannot make contact with a kicker?
So now Gus Gould is calling for the consequences of such contact to be changed - noting that they were introduced in 1981.
League followers are not interested in the subtleties engendered by laws that cannot be readily changed - see Hugh Jarse's link to the Chiefs no compete ruck strategy.
His only suggestion for change was for where the penalty is awarded. I.e. if that offence occurs at the halfway line, that is where the penalty is awarded, not 10m from the posts, directly in front which is how the rule currently works.
With the NRL's quite reasonable focus on protecting kickers, it seemed unbelievable that the Bulldogs felt so cheated by the outcome. If the kicker was hit after he kicked it and ended up with a serious injury how couldn't it be a penalty?
If they'd accepted the decision on the field it does seem unlikely that it would have boiled over like it did when the referees were pelted with bottles off the field.
The NRL in general (fans, players, journos etc.) seems to always take the position that it is the rules at fault when a close game is decided by a penalty or similar rather than blaming the players for breaking the rules.
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
funnily enough Gould comments uncritically on how many NRL games are decided by field goals - remember when this used to be the loig criticism of union??
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