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RWC: AUS v WAL (Twickenham): POOL A; 2:45am (AEDT) Sunday 11 October

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Jim Lenehan (48)
Gnostic said:
My thoughts on the game:-
1) Tipuric was huge. His defensive work was outstanding and I really wonder if he should be in the starting side every week. I know what Warburton brings but I think Tipuric is just that much better.
2) Wallabies were under the pump the whole game. In the first half I saw one stat that had then with only 25% of the ball. Their defensive efforts for whole match were exemplified in that 9 minute period when down to 13 men. Nathan Grey again should be getting massive plaudits for the work he has done, not just in defensive structures but also for instilling a willingness and desire to do the hard work.
3)If I could be bothered to do so I could go back and quote a post I put in during the 2011RWC when Gatland was re-signed. I said then something like the WRU had made a mistake and Gatland had taken the side as far as he could IMO and while they are a strong challenge every game they are totally predictable. Nothing I've seen from Wales and the Lions to a large degree since that time makes me want to revise that. The game plan is just so limited and while as I said above the defence of the Wallabies was outstanding the attack of the Welsh was unimaginative to say the least. The individual skills to draw and commit a defender one on one just poor. That is nothing new.
4) Scrum - Wallabies could put that win down to the scrum, perhaps a first in Australian Rugby?. Winning vital turnovers and penalties at the set piece with genuine dominance gave Joubert no choice, and I doubt anybody would be questioning the validity of those penalties.
5) Douglas - I along with many others struggled to see what he would bring when selected above Horwill and Jones especially given his injury struggles in 2015. I said I thought it was because Chieka was backing hismelf to get the best from Douglas and that level Chieka thought was better than the best level available to Horwill. Well that was proved to me last night. Amazing effort from a lock in defence.

The bad :-
1) I don't think Folau was fit, or anywhere near it. I don't think I've seen him miss so many high balls in his entire Rugby career. His timing was off and his running not very fluid. If he isn't 100% next week give him a rest.
2) Genia - very poor form IMO to say regarding the cynical penalty for the yellow card that he would do it again intentionally. Just silly, really, if a penalty is a 50:50 for cynical play refs will remember that and really consider if he is just cheating intentionally. Just silly, we all know it, you don't have to verbalise it.
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I agree with 90% of this but cementball is not the cause of failure to score just the lack of outside centre or alternatively we should probably have taken one of the many 3pts on offer and come at the reduced Aussie team from further out. That was a poor captains call
 
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Shiggins said:
Haha are you serious. It's obvious as. I saw it when it happened and couldn't believe he wasn't binned. A million Welshman will be uploading it don't worry

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if it were "obvious as" and as cynical/intentional as you would have us believe then he would have been sin binned, lets see if it gets mentioned in by the citing officer.

In either case, i don't understand why you are so excited about the possibility of Pocock getting banned, it would be detrimental to the Wallabies RWC campaign.
 
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Jim Lenehan (48)
JJJ said:
Wales had a lot of chances to win that, on 2nd viewing. If the halfback had just kept his grubby hands off it when the Welsh scrum was marching us back toward the try line they would've had a pushover try at the very least. Instead he decided to go for glory himself and ballsed it up royally. There were other missed opportunities but none so gratuitous as that one.

I really wish one of our 9s would own the jersey. Maybe the reserve halfback gets halftime blowjobs.
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That's been pointed out a few million times by my compatriots. Wales could've taken that game so many ways. Davies inexperience showed. Plenty to work on
 
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Jim Lenehan (48)
kiap said:
Generalising it away from this game, missing a kick could be a cunning tactic.

Cynical? Yes, not that it'd be a first. But for a team with the lead it could be advantageous. You get to chew up a minute of time and remain in the opposition half. That could be worth more than 3 points and having to receive the kickoff in your own half.

Admitting to it wouldn't be cunning, though, obviously.
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this thread is just weird. Australia got on top in last 5 minutes as Wales realised they couldn't catch up. Foley missed one. So did biggar. That's it
 
Shiggins

Shiggins

Steve Williams (59)
TOCC said:
if it were "obvious as" and as cynical/intentional as you would have us believe then he would have been sin binned, lets see if it gets mentioned in by the citing officer.

In either case, i don't understand why you are so excited about the possibility of Pocock getting banned, it would be detrimental to the Wallabies RWC campaign.
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Whatever. That's why I'm posting it. Because I think it's a no brained and he will Be gone. So let's start talking about his replacement. But we shall wait to see if it gets cited.

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Jim Lenehan (48)
Shiggins said:
Because I guarantee plenty of Welshman would of thought it was a red card. Not that I think that would of helped ;)

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But we play South Africa.

The number of things that could ve been different if only is big enough with the things we did wrong when the game was there to be won.
 
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Ward Prentice (10)
Personal grunts on the game :

Wallabies have not just improved "Running Rugby" as the magic bullet people for fucking years seemed to think the problem was. It's all these little things. Scrum, Kicking, Defence, Culture, Finishers, Shutting down teams in the last 20 mins, trusting the man beside you, covering him if he needs help. And not being a bunch of smartarse pricks at McDonald's at 3am.

I'm not just supporting these guys cause well fuck, they are wearing the gold so I have to. I am genuinely proud of what this team is doing for Rugby and the National team in the last few months. Playing like it's a golden opportunity , not a right.

The 13 man period was the best defensive effort I"ve seen by Australia, ever.

Wales have the ability to knock off both SA and NZ. Screw the percentages and likely hood, this is the World Cup.

I think we must have played something like 30 minutes without Hooper (suspended), McMahon (subbed) and Pocock (out there but on one stump). In some ways it was a worse case scenario yet without them we played our finest hour (or ten minutes) in defence. Without them out there and a dodgy Folau we produced "the 10 minutes of guts" then turned straight around and went down and put a crucial 3 points on them to help ice the game. My point ? We didnt crumble under adversity, we did what we could and what we could do was alot.

That first scrum by us was dumb. We just needed to get the ball out and get field position via a exit kick. We became England there and tried to get cute and a penalty. There's a time for that shit. That first scrum wasn't it.

Once again, late in the game you can't score against the Wallabies.

Great game. Proud of the boys..........on both sides.
 
JJJ

JJJ

Vay Wilson (31)
Cardiffblue said:
That's been pointed out a few million times by my compatriots. Wales could've taken that game so many ways. Davies inexperience showed. Plenty to work on
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Well I'm glad he did. I can all too easily imagine the headlines if we'd had a pushover try scored against us. And there would be headlines.
 
Cardiffblue

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Jim Lenehan (48)
The Snout said:
Personal grunts on the game :

Wallabies have not just improved "Running Rugby" as the magic bullet people for fucking years seemed to think the problem was. It's all these little things. Scrum, Kicking, Defence, Culture, Finishers, Shutting down teams in the last 20 mins, trusting the man beside you, covering him if he needs help. And not being a bunch of smartarse pricks at McDonald's at 3am.

I'm not just supporting these guys cause well fuck, they are wearing the gold so I have to. I am genuinely proud of what this team is doing for Rugby and the National team in the last few months. Playing like it's a golden opportunity , not a right.

The 13 man period was the best defensive effort I"ve seen by Australia, ever.

Wales have the ability to knock off both SA and NZ. Screw the percentages and likely hood, this is the World Cup.

I think we must have played something like 30 minutes without Hooper (suspended), McMahon (subbed) and Pocock (out there but on one stump). In some ways it was a worse case scenario yet without them we played our finest hour (or ten minutes) in defence. Without them out there and a dodgy Folau we produced "the 10 minutes of guts" then turned straight around and went down and put a crucial 3 points on them to help ice the game. My point ? We didnt crumble under adversity, we did what we could and what we could do was alot.

That first scrum by us was dumb. We just needed to get the ball out and get field position via a exit kick. We became England there and tried to get cute and a penalty. There's a time for that shit. That first scrum wasn't it.

Once again, late in the game you can't score against the Wallabies.

Great game. Proud of the boys....on both sides.
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Great sides don't win just by dominating but also by winning thro when all chips are down. Australian team showed real character today
 
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Phil Kearns (64)
Dan54 said:
Bloody great game, and so to the idiots who were on here in earlier threads laughing at NH teams needing penalty kicks to win tests and saying they were boring because of it.That was 2 teams playing bloody good rugby, because stella defence is a large part of great rugby!!
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Dan, that was a good contest, unlike a lot of boring NH penaltythons.


Are you really saying that penalty goals are more interesting than tries?


Now that would be idiotic.
 
Cardiffblue

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Jim Lenehan (48)
ChargerWA said:
The Wale is my fav NH team, so I really hope we meet again this RWC, but all this false bravado about not caring about falling on the wrong side of the draw is foolhardy.

I'd be shitting myself if we fell on that side of the draw.
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Not bravado. Something about Cymru is the history of what ifs and the way it tears us apart. If we go out next week We've probs added significantly to the list this morning but that's nothing compared to the soul searching like what happened following rwc 2011 semi final and then watching the piss poor French come within a point of winning. I fancy we can take sa. Nothing I saw this morning changes that view.

Real test of gatland is how he Instills that belief into the bois who gave so much this morning
 
pjm

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Billy Sheehan (19)
A try is just putting the ball down on a side of a white line, it's the build up that counts.
 
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