Reds 2017

[hammertimethere]

So Genia did his ACL in 2013 then copped some reasonable cartilage damage in 2015 in lead up to RWC. Had surgery again a missed everything up to Wallaby camp in 2016 where he stated publicly that he was no longer doing the longer distance running during S & C because of his knee. I also follow him on Instagram and where he has posted about having Synivisc injections (which are a synthetic joint fluid often given to people with degenerating knees to give them a bit of lubrication and pain relief for a while and delay the need for major joint surgery I.e realignment or replacement).

My opinion is based on this info and having asked some Brisbane based people who are close to the family.

 

[Scrubber2050]

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If this is the case he should retire NOW

Any rugby club or franchise would have shit for brains to sign ANY player with chronic injury problems.

Have absolutely no idea if Will has prepared for life after rugby - that is have a great property portfolio, share portfolio, has studied etc etc. Life catches up to all sports people, eventually and it is so important for the athlete to be prepared for the inevitable time.

 

[Beer Baron]

^^^^^^^
If this is the case he should retire NOW

Any rugby club or franchise would have shit for brains to sign ANY player with chronic injury problems.

Have absolutely no idea if Will has prepared for life after rugby - that is have a great property portfolio, share portfolio, has studied etc etc. Life catches up to all sports people, eventually and it is so important for the athlete to be prepared for the inevitable time.

you have obv. never seen Tom Berenger play baseball...

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[Braveheart81]

^^^^^^^
If this is the case he should retire NOW

Any rugby club or franchise would have shit for brains to sign ANY player with chronic injury problems.

Have absolutely no idea if Will has prepared for life after rugby - that is have a great property portfolio, share portfolio, has studied etc etc. Life catches up to all sports people, eventually and it is so important for the athlete to be prepared for the inevitable time.

His knees will be awful post career regardless. May as well ruin them completely!

you have obv. never seen Tom Berenger play baseball.

This is quality!

 

[Scrubber2050]

Tom, bless his heart, attended the University of Missouri and majored in journalism. Fortunately he became a very successful actor (and baseball player)

Smart people prepare for the inevitable and the trials and tribulations that sometimes follow.

I just hope that more players do so and the clubs have programs in place to assist players from the get go, not only when they are due to retire

 

[dru]

I suggested on the front page:

Drop Jake. Retrain Frisby as back up 10. Genia to 9.

@Reg, think I've asked before but cant remember the response, why is Jake so well considered? Got to be something that I'm not seeing on the tellie.

 

[TOCC]

He mightn't be a natural leader but I don't think he is detrimental to the culture either, I'm not going to pretend I'm a knee expert, but if it's manageable then I'd certainly support bringing him back to the Reds, based on 2016 form he is clearly the best Australian halfback going around.


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[upthereds#!]

At the end of the day it's all about value. If they can get him on a good price long term deal partnered with aru, then why not. I don't think they would pay overs for him even if they could afford it considering frisby was resigned and probably on a increased contract.

 

[upthereds#!]

"The Southern States Brumbies"?

Yeh not bad, southern brumbies wouldn't be bad especially if the kings get shafted aswell .

Still doesn't solve the Reds as a name. Queensland Koalas....Queensland Bears..Queensland Cane Toads..Queensland XXXX brewery bobble head dolls.

 

[Floggn']

Is it sacrilegious to suggest that I don't want Genia at the Reds?

I'd prefer we invest in Frisby, Tuttle and Sorovi at the moment with Tuttle being very close to overtaking Frisby.

Genia can go to the Canberra Rebels to mentor Joe Powell when Stirzaker heads overseas.

No Reg it's not. BUT Pickle isn't the answer right now. He has had a good crack and really hasn't delivered. He was the worst I've seen a halfback play against the Sharks. Top bloke? 110% but that doesn't mean he should be there. Will will be great for Tuttle and better for our team. I know Pickle isn't going anywhere but they knew Genia was coming back when they resigned him which was bisarre. We need to win now not in 2 years time.

 

[Simon.]

I for one won't judge McIntyre too harshly until he's had a couple of seasons under decent coaching. He came into professional football in the Graham era and hasn't really known anything else.

He'll never a Barrett or a 2011 Cooper, he doesn't have the footwork or pace, but he could still be an effective flyhalf IMO if he builds his distributing and kicking skills and his match awareness nous. I actually thought he looked better at the 10s but he hasn't really had any minutes in 15s this season.

As for Genia, shoot him full of Synivisc and anti-inflammatories (non-steroidal I guess!) and let him go nuts. Seemed to work well for the Wallabies last year.

 

[liquor box]

Yeh not bad, southern brumbies wouldn't be bad especially if the kings get shafted aswell .

Still doesn't solve the Reds as a name. Queensland Koalas..Queensland Bears..Queensland Cane Toads..Queensland XXXX brewery bobble head dolls.

Imagine a battle between the mascots of the sunwolves and QLD dropbears

V

It would need to be a day game so the kids can sleep at night

 

[TOCC]

Rebels were running favourites to sign Genia, but the whole Super Rugby future may mean Reds are the preferred option.


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[Floggn']

I for one won't judge McIntyre too harshly until he's had a couple of seasons under decent coaching. He came into professional football in the Graham era and hasn't really known anything else.

He'll never a Barrett or a 2011 Cooper, he doesn't have the footwork or pace, but he could still be an effective flyhalf IMO if he builds his distributing and kicking skills and his match awareness nous. I actually thought he looked better at the 10s but he hasn't really had any minutes in 15s this season.

As for Genia, shoot him full of Synivisc and anti-inflammatories (non-steroidal I guess!) and let him go nuts. Seemed to work well for the Wallabies last year.

I for one won't judge McIntyre
too harshly until he's had a couple of seasons under decent coaching. He came into professional football in the Graham era and hasn't really known anything else.

He'll never a Barrett or a 2011 Cooper, he doesn't have the footwork or pace, but he could still be an effective flyhalf IMO if he builds his distributing and kicking skills and his match awareness nous. I actually thought he looked better at the 10s but he hasn't really had any minutes in 15s this season.

As for Genia, shoot him full of Synivisc and anti-inflammatories (non-steroidal I guess!) and let him go nuts. Seemed to work well for the Wallabies last year.

He takes the ball running sideways. He always has. If they can straighten him up he will be worth keeping.

 

[Scrubber2050]

At least give Tuttle a serious crack (over 3 or 4 games starting) before the Genia thing. Bloke has serious injury concerns as well as the "cultural" aspects I have alluded to in earlier posts.

Rarely it seems does a return to the future bring great results.

Moore - has been less than what most expected.
George - has been OK but definitely not anywhere near the peak of what he was.
Quade - was to be the saviour of the Reds this year. Again, I think if posters are honest in their evaluation he certainly has not been anywhere near that. IMO Lance has been the form 10 and who really would have predicted that.
Higgers - IMO this bloke has performed to a good level since his return and represents good value

 

[Sully]

I've seen tuttle play a few times now and honestly can't see what you guys are going on about. He's not the answer to our halfback problems and never will be.

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[amirite]

I don't think there's enough of a sample size on Tuttle to say he is or isn't anything. He's looked decent when he's been given time.

Then again, I don't get why some guys think Frisby is terrible either. Rugby fans are just obsessed with the next big thing, and apparently Nic Frisby, freshly minted Wallaby at age 24, has hit a ceiling (and a low one at that) and must be replaced. Interesting.

As the NFL saying goes, “the backup quarterback is the most popular guy in town".

 

[Sully]

I don't think there's enough of a sample size on Tuttle to say he is or isn't anything. He's looked decent when he's been given time.

Then again, I don't get why some guys think Frisby is terrible either. Rugby fans are just obsessed with the next big thing, and apparently Nic Frisby, freshly minted Wallaby at age 24, has hit a ceiling (and a low one at that) and must be replaced. Interesting.

As the NFL saying goes, “the backup quarterback is the most popular guy in town".

I have a fair size nrc sample.

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[Jimmy_Crouch]

He takes the ball running sideways. He always has. If they can straighten him up he will be worth keeping.

That is the number one reason I would not have considered Matt O'Connor as head coach. As the "attack/backline" coach he was unable to train it out of him.

 

[USARugger]

I don't think there's enough of a sample size on Tuttle to say he is or isn't anything. He's looked decent when he's been given time.

Then again, I don't get why some guys think Frisby is terrible either. Rugby fans are just obsessed with the next big thing, and apparently Nic Frisby, freshly minted Wallaby at age 24, has hit a ceiling (and a low one at that) and must be replaced. Interesting.

As the NFL saying goes, “the backup quarterback is the most popular guy in town".

I don't think anyone is calling for Frisby to be dropped but he's back to making the same mistakes as he always has and hasn't seemed to have made much linear progression at this level of play. If he's still misfiring like this a few more rounds in it would be negligent to not begin assessing options.

The issue with Frisby right now is he far too often looks like the backup 9 that just got thrown in for 80.

I hope he can consistently break his bad habits but he's just like QC (Quade Cooper) right now, same habitual brain explosions hurting us in matches. QC (Quade Cooper) is just fortunate that we're all mentally scarred from last year.

Everyone in the NFL knows their backup quarterback is shit except for the Patriots.