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Reds 2017

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by Scrubber2050, May 10, 2016.

  1. Scrubber2050 Mark Loane (55)

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    What do the Reds need to do in 2017 and beyond to be at least competitive and consistently make the finals

    1. Appoint the right Head Coach, one enthusiatic and the ability to make good rugny players into very good ones, one who has the respect of players.
    2. Appoint a new CEO
    3. Determine which playing positions need filling or tweaking ?
    1 (Slipper), 2 (Moore), 4 (Simmo), 5 (Kane), 6 (Tui), 8 (shatz +1), 9 (Pickle), 13 (Kerevi) 14 (Nabuli) are all good and performing (Moore at the Ponies and Douglas being injured ATM)
    Personally I think all the other positions should be seriously looked at (yes, even Karmichael) and those players should cop a serious "review" as to their performances year to date. Retain performing and proven players, players that have given all to the Club, instead of looking at pipe dreams. Holmes is the classic example !
    4. Get rid of some deadwood players (who are not buying into the culture and living in their own).

    Thoughts???
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  2. Sully Phil Kearns (64)

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    Why are we talking about next year when we can still make the finals this year

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  3. liquor box Chilla Wilson (44)

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    We need to plan for back to back competitions?
  4. Scrubber2050 Mark Loane (55)

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    I THINK you are trying to be funny
    Certainly put a smile on the dial
  5. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

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    We should try to get a list of the status of the 2017 squad on Page 1 of the thread. As more information is known about the status of the 2017 squad that post can be updated. See page 1 of the Reds 2016 thread for an example of how this can be done.

    Top of the Christmas list must be new Coaching staff & a new CEO..

    Who is off, who is locked in, and who should Club Red be looking to lock in for 2017?

    Reds 2017 Player Status List (based on Reds 2016 Squad)

    Confirmed leaving Reds in 2017
    - Lolo Fakosilea (loose forward) 2015 EPS - to Team Rehab to Brumbies for 2017
    - LF Gill to Toulon for 2 years (return to AUS in 2019?)
    - Greg Holmes (Prop) to Exeter Chiefs
    - Saia Fainga'a (Hooker) to Brumbies
    - Anthony Fainga'a (centre) to Japan Kintetsu Liners. FTS & FTA package deal not happening
    - Ayumu Goromanu (Foreign Marquee Player) to Toulon
    - Jamie-Jerry Taulagi (fullback) from off contract to end 2017 (released to Japan Munukata Sanix Blues)
    - Sam Greene (Flyhalf) from 2015 Short Term Contract, to end of 2016, to Japan Toyota Industries Shuttles.
    - Ben Matwijow (Lock) Short Term Contract, released, then signed to Western Force
    - Jake Schatz (loose forward) - released.
    - Curtis Browning (Loose Forward) to end 2016 to France, Lyon.
    - Ben Daley (Prop) to end 2016 - to Western Force

    Contracted for 2017
    CEO: Richard Barker - to end ???

    Props:
    - James Slipper to end 2018
    - Sef Fa'agase to end 2017
    - Taniela Topou (front row) Wider Training Group, to 2018
    - Pettowa Paraka (front row) to end of 2017
    - Sam Talakai (front row) to end of 2017

    Hookers:
    - Andrew Ready to end of 2018
    - Stephen Moore (ex Brumbies) to ?
    - Alex Mafi to end of 2018

    Locks:
    - Cadeyrn Neville new signing from Rebels, to end of 2017
    - Lukhan Lealaiauloto-Tui - to end of 2018
    - Izack Rodda - to end of 2018
    - Kane Douglas - to end of 2018
    - Rob Simmons to end of 2017

    Backrow:
    - Adam Korczyk from 2015 EDS to end 2018.
    - Michael Gunn from 2015 EDS to end 2018.
    - Caleb Timu to ? 2017
    - Hendrik Tui (Foreign Marquee) extended to end 2017 (?)
    - Leroy Houston to end of 2018 (from Bath)
    - Angus Scott-Young to EDS to end ?
    - George Smith (from Wasps) to end ?

    Scrumhalf:
    - Nick Frisby to end 2017
    - James Tuttle from 2015 EDS, to end 2018

    Flyhalf:
    - Jake McIntyre from 2015 EDS to end of 2017

    Centres:
    - Campbell Magnay to end 2017
    - Samu Kerevi to end 2018 (announced 20 May 16)

    Wings:
    - Chris Kuridrani to end 2017
    - Chris Feauai-Sautia to end 2017 (Japan Off-season special deal)
    - Eto Nabuli (from NRL St George Illawarra) to 2017
    - Junior Laloifi (The Prince of Ballymore) to ?
    - Isaia Perese to ?

    Fullback:
    - Karmichael Hunt (fullback/Utility) to end 2017


    Wider Training Group for 2017
    ?


    Off Contract at end of 2016
    Duncan Paia'aua (Flyhalf/Centre) to end 2016


    Unsigned/Unknown for 2017
    Coach: ?????? -

    Matt Mafi (Hooker) currently on Short Term Contract
    Alex Gibbon (Wing) currently on Short Term Contract
    Jack Tuttle (Fullback) currently on Short Term Contract
    Tom Banks (Fullback) currently on Short Term Contract
    Waita Setu (loose forward) Currently Short Term Contract in 2016
    Scott Gale (halfback) from 2015 Short Term Contract to ?
    Henry Taefu (Centre)

    The Player Status List Above will be updated based on Crowd Sourced Information from posts below.

    Edit: Roster Updated on 18 July 2016.
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  6. dru Nicholas Shehadie (39)

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    Is Nathan Sharpe a good appointment for player rep?
  7. Simon. Ted Thorn (20)

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    Sully, have you been getting stuck into the Red(s) Kool Aid again??
  8. liquor box Chilla Wilson (44)

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    I say no, I have had no dealings with him and and he is probably going to be great but did he attempt to recruit players to leave with him to the Force when he left?
  9. fatprop John Eales (66)

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  10. TOCC David Wilson (68)

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    Brilliant, I don't see how the Broncos are a serious option for him if he is chasing starting time, they already have Anthony Milford who is similar mould player to him at 5/8 and Boyd at fullback.

    Plenty of opportunities at the other NRL clubs though, just depends how serious he is about returning to Brisbane. If that is a factor then the Reds stand a chance, if it isn't, then I don't think rugby can match the money.


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  11. Scrubber2050 Mark Loane (55)

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    He was/is on the Bond Uni Board but I understand it was only a "profile" thing and contributed little or nothing,

    Maybe (hopefully) that will change at Reds level.
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  12. Seb V Greg Davis (50)

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    A forward pack with Slipper, Moore, Douglas and Simmons is almost always going to be a good one. Should be strong in the set-piece having that core group of strong scrummagers and line-out operators.

    Sorry about the back-line.
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  13. Strewthcobber Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    Does he only represent the professional players or all players in Queensland?
  14. RugbyReg George Gregan (70)

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    have just updated the contract end dates of a few in the original project.
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  15. Scrubber2050 Mark Loane (55)

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    Absolutely no idea
  16. Lindommer Mark Ella (57)

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  17. Parse Fred Wood (13)

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    I was hoping the Reds would announce a new CEO and HC this year, not next year. I think we are about 60 days into when they said they would have it sorted in around 90 days? Or 90-120 days or whatever they said. They need to have this stuff sorted ASAP so everyone knows what their position will be in the future.
  18. TOCC David Wilson (68)

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    CEO will need to be appointed before HC, the two positions are so closely aligned that any new HC needs CEO approval IMO.


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  19. RugbyReg George Gregan (70)

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    They will, without a doubt.
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  20. Paty305 Jimmy Flynn (14)

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    I don't like the idea of him anywhere near the Reds administration. There's a reason the Force took so many Queenslanders when they started. I'm sure many haven't forgotten the fact that while serving as Reds Captain he actively recruited Queensland players and schoolboys to join the Force. I didn't really care that he'd gone to the Force, but that he convinced so many young players, the future of Queensland Rugby at the time, to come as well, despite being a Queensland rep and Captain at that, really just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

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