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Australian Rugby / RA

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by Dave Beat, May 21, 2013.

  1. RedsHappy Tony Shaw (54)

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    RA will surely be holding various emergency board meetings in the next days; it will be interesting to see what comes out of them and what level of ‘crisis management’ competence is on display.
  2. wamberal Michael Lynagh (62)

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    My fearless prediction: no matter what they do, it will either be (a) too much or (b) too little, or (c) just the wrong thing.

    There is nothing quite like the wisdom of the armchair spectator.
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  3. formerflanker Chilla Wilson (44)

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    Both men will do their shows from isolation in order to continue broadcasting.

    By the way, what am I to make of your gravatar? That you endorse shoving an Australian Rugby sock down Alan Jones' throat? Or that you endorse shoving a cock down his throat?
    Looks defamatory to me. I'll leave that one to the owners of this site.
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  4. Slim 293 George Gregan (70)

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    I’m not sure if Alan would object to the latter...
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  5. I like to watch Simon Poidevin (60)

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    fyi...

    defamatory
    /dɪˈfamət(ə)ri/
    Learn to pronounce

    adjective

    1. (of remarks, writing, etc.) damaging the good reputation of someone; slanderous or libellous.
      "a defamatory allegation"
  6. formerflanker Chilla Wilson (44)

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    Thanks for the object lesson in sly inferences.
    However you have reminded me that both Jones and RA could see the image as "damaging their good reputation".
  7. Adam84 John Thornett (49)

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    I’m really not sure what you’re expecting or how your going to assess their competence, all sporting codes are at the mercy of a greater issue here. Literally all they can do at the moment is maintain the suspension of super rugby and wait out the storm, compensation and insurance will be the biggest question, however that’s not going to be assessable for a number of months I don’t believe.

    Local comps and how that plays out is evolving, and that will be dictated by medical guidance and direction from the department of health.
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  8. Ignoto Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    And what is defamatory about enjoying that?
  9. RedsHappy Tony Shaw (54)

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    RA could well soon enter a 'will we survive this or not?' phase.

    If so, I will assess their competence in dealing with this possibility in terms of the quality and viability of RA's 'survival and how we stay viable in 2020+ plans'.

    IMO, it's very likely RA will have to act faster than 'waiting out the storm..and assessing the position in a few months'. If RA's insurances are weak or void in these circumstances, eg, the cash flow problems of our Super Rugby RUs will start to arise quickly I would think and they will only have RA to look to for immediate financial support. RA's own higher level cash flow issues will commence if the July 2020 Tests and beyond are threatened, which certainly looks possible.

    As I have said elsewhere, a huge issue in this context will likely be the nature of RA's Foxtel contract and whether Foxtel can or cannot immediately terminate paying RA for media rights if no games are on through no fault of Foxtel's. Or, related, if such media rights were $ pre-paid to RA for all of 2020 and whether or not Foxtel can claw back no-game-played cash repayment credits from RA.

    A twist on this whole issue could conceivably be Foxtel using such 2020 payment termination or claw-back rights (if they exist) to drive a super hard bargain with RA re the 2021-25 rugby broadcasting rights, eg, 'we will not terminate payments for 2020 if we are granted the next cycle's rights for [insert very low ball $ number]. Such a scenario could thus be, in these COVID-2019 moments, a case of Foxtel 'making them an offer they cannot refuse'.
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  10. Adam84 John Thornett (49)

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    I don’t know mate, all those are hypotheticals or unknowns though, you’re aiming to assess their crisis management competence on things may or may not be the case in regards to broadcast agreements, payments and insurance coverage.

    Right now, the main focus of any emergency board should be on how RA can protect the health of the staff and players, thats priority number one, this will then flow into protecting the brand of rugby. Financial impacts is obviously a massive concern and cant be ignored, and thats where insurance and compensation will need to be addressed, but right now i don’t think that can be accurately assessed. No economist in the world can accurately predict the economics ramifications of the Coronavirus right now, or how long the travel restrictions will remain in place for, let alone Rugby Australia.

    Even if some of those items you mentioned are discussed, they’re mostly covered under a commercial in confidence or non-disclosure clause and won’t be announced at the end of an emergency board meeting, so again I’m not really sure what you’re going to assess their competence on.
  11. Rugbynutter39 Paul McLean (56)

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    I think it is time to realise how difficult this whole situation is. Reality is options are going to be diminishing at a rapid rate as predictions are not great in terms of things will get worse before they get better. Tough times for more than just sporting clubs.
  12. Brumby Runner John Eales (66)

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    I find it hard to believe RA or any of the other national rugby boards can or will act before SANZAAR make a decision about the long term impact on the SR comp. No point establishing a new domestic competition only to find SANZAAR want the SR comp to get underway some time during that new competition. More likely, I think, that the SR teams will organise trials against each other to be ready if the call comes from SANZAAR.
  13. dru Simon Poidevin (60)

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    How do they achieve this, BR, with 2 week quarantine on entering countries?

    Suggest humbly, that domestic is what is in our control.
  14. RedsHappy Tony Shaw (54)

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  15. Brumby Runner John Eales (66)

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    It could well turn out that SANZAAR will abandon the 2020 comp altogether, but they haven't yet. There is still so much confusion and contradictory advice floating around, that it seems they are still contemplating getting the Super season re-running some time in the future. While ever they hold onto that belief, mistaken or otherwise, I cannot see the various national rugby unions acting on their own.

    Of course, as soon as SANZAAR make what seems to be the obvious decision to most of us to abandon the comp, then it would be heartening for RA to step in with some form of adjusted NRC imo.
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  16. Slim 293 George Gregan (70)

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  17. RedsHappy Tony Shaw (54)

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    The ruthless calculus for Aust sporting codes may well be something like this:

    Let them go broke in 2020 with, if any, limited govt aid to see the players and staff involved not wiped out

    Restart them all with some more, but again just limited aid, when all their media and gate income can return in (we assume) 2021
  18. cyclopath Stirling Mortlock (74)

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    I expect ongoing players safety, and logistic issues will nix that idea. My gut feel is we will see no further pro rugby of any form this season.
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  19. Rugbynutter39 Paul McLean (56)

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    Yep thinking of ringing and cancelling my fox subscription is timely to do
  20. Rebelsfan Darby Loudon (17)

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    if the current broadcast rights have a clause that stipulates that a certain number of games must be played for the payment to RA to be made, then it seems that this years' payment may not be paid and RA will be unable to pay the SR franchises their player payment installments and .. well that's pretty much it. Game over. Good night.

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