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George Gregan (70)
While you voluntarily give consent to give your private data to those companies - it's largely for commercial purposes which aren't very scary. Targeted ads etc. They don't give a fuck what you do and only try to modify your behavior to buy certain products.I will definitely be downloading the app, people lives and livelihoods are a lot more important than some sort of pseudo privacy. The idea that this will give anyone more information on you than Google, Facebook, Amazon, Apple et al have already have is misguided.
Besides which, I don't deal drugs, I'm not a Russian spy and there's no 25 year old blonde that wants to have a covert affair with me, so there's not a whole lot to hide!
State authoritarianism is scary and it can come on very suddenly.
I will definitely be downloading the app, people lives and livelihoods are a lot more important than some sort of pseudo privacy. The idea that this will give anyone more information on you than Google, Facebook, Amazon, Apple et al have already have is misguided.
Besides which, I don't deal drugs, I'm not a Russian spy and there's no 25 year old blonde that wants to have a covert affair with me, so there's not a whole lot to hide!
Any other party wanting that information from Google or Facebook etc. needs to get a warrant.
That's the big difference.
Aurelius
Ted Thorn (20)
If the WHO had simply failed to provide accurate information then that would be bad enough. But they actively discouraged other countries from enacting travel bans from China, implied that Chinese travel bans might be motivated by racist sentiments and refused to even acknowledge Taiwan's efforts in fighting the coronavirus (which they seem to have done better than anyone else in the world).
Even now they're prepared to endorse China's decision to re-open their wet markets, which the Chinese government itself said was the source of a pandemic which has killed over 100,000 people.
Whatever mistakes Donald Trump has made, I don't blame him one bit for de-funding them. Why should America pay one cent to an NGO that acts as a propaganda arm for their geopolitical enemies, with 20000+ dead Americans as a result?
Aurelius
Ted Thorn (20)
While we're on the topic of what Boris should do - give Huawei the flick.
They had the contract for the Transperth network a month ago. Not any more.
Up the Guts
Steve Williams (59)
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12325702
WO,
Is this just a couple of jokers angry at Ardern and the level four lockdowns or is there a wider segment of NZers frustrated?
WO,
Is this just a couple of jokers angry at Ardern and the level four lockdowns or is there a wider segment of NZers frustrated?
waiopehu oldboy
Stirling Mortlock (74)
^ polling suggests the former with one published on Monday finding 66% of us were willing to see Level 4 lockdown extended if it meant not having to go back there later. As it stands Level 3 (which more closely resembles where you're at) will likely be announced Monday & take effect as early as Thursday.
The usual media suspects are trying to sell their overreaction snake oil but hardly anyone's buying it. To quote our First Bloke:
"Spare a thought today for anyone suffering a form of cognitive dissonance causing dismay that the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff is empty because the fence at the top is working."
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/ente...n-writers-suffering-cognitive-dissonance.html
EDIT: this, I think, is more or less the consensus:
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-...rus-pandemic-we-saved-thousands-of-lives.html
The usual media suspects are trying to sell their overreaction snake oil but hardly anyone's buying it. To quote our First Bloke:
"Spare a thought today for anyone suffering a form of cognitive dissonance causing dismay that the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff is empty because the fence at the top is working."
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/ente...n-writers-suffering-cognitive-dissonance.html
EDIT: this, I think, is more or less the consensus:
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-...rus-pandemic-we-saved-thousands-of-lives.html
This x 1000. The idea of Dutton getting his mitts on this is not something I want to contemplate.
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
Or any other politician for that matter. I just don't trust their motives and working in IT security as part of my profession I doubt they can secure it properly anyway.
Oh, I agree. Just mentioned him because he's the guy in that hotseat at the moment. And no, they can't handle it.
tragic
John Solomon (38)
So as an IT professional I value your opinion.
Are they not just tracking movements for a finite period of time? Why is that such a concern? My movements are pretty bloody boring. They’re welcome to them. And if I get an early notification that I’ve been close to a positive person for a prolonged period then I might just save a family member or vulnerable person from catching it from me in the asymptomatic period.
If I want to go somewhere I shouldn’t I can leave my phone at home. Or delete the app.
What am I missing?
boyo
Mark Ella (57)
Coronavirus has killed 30,000 Americans, and all Trump can do is blame the WHO
https://www.theguardian.com/world/c...uk_email&utm_campaign=BestOfGuardianOpinionUK
https://www.theguardian.com/world/c...uk_email&utm_campaign=BestOfGuardianOpinionUK
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
I think it really depends on the level of anonymisation the data undergoes and who gets access to it. Is the data encrypted properly in transit and at rest? What other systems is it fed into? How long are they keeping it? etc...
formerflanker
Ken Catchpole (46)
Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.
CS Lewis.
I worry when the PM's language subtly changes from "voluntary" to "compulsory if we don’t all do the right thing" and then to "Mr Morrison says the app won’t be used by police as evidence to prosecute people for breaching social distancing requirements."
Nope. Don't install it. We've had enough examples of police over-reaction already.
boyo
Mark Ella (57)
In today’s Tech Clinic our tech correspondent Rhiannon Williams shares how to keep your keyboard clean. Which tech tip would you like to receive next? Let us know at newsletter@inews.co.uk.
While everyone is (hopefully) wiping down their phones on a regular basis, cleaning your computer keyboard is also an important way to keep things hygienic and minimise the chance of transferring germs.
If you're using a relatively modern laptop with shallow keys, wiping down the keys with a disinfectant cleaning wipe that doesn't contain bleach, followed by a slightly dampened lint-free cloth should be sufficient.
Cleaning a desktop keyboard or slighty deeper keys can involve trying to free dust, crumbs and other detritus trapped inside the main body, so disconnecting and turning it upside down over a bin and giving it a shake is a good place to start. Handheld vacuum cleaners and cans of compressed air can be useful for dislodging particular stubborn dust, as can cotton buds for swabbing at spills or sticky patches.
Once you're confident the keyboard dust-free, apply a small amount of rubbing alcohol to a lint-free cloth and wipe it gently over the keys in small sections. If you're feeling really thorough, you can remove each individual key (if your keyboard allows it) for a good wipe and leave it to dry for a few minutes before reattaching.
If you're using a relatively modern laptop with shallow keys, wiping down the keys with a disinfectant cleaning wipe that doesn't contain bleach, followed by a slightly dampened lint-free cloth should be sufficient.
Cleaning a desktop keyboard or slighty deeper keys can involve trying to free dust, crumbs and other detritus trapped inside the main body, so disconnecting and turning it upside down over a bin and giving it a shake is a good place to start. Handheld vacuum cleaners and cans of compressed air can be useful for dislodging particular stubborn dust, as can cotton buds for swabbing at spills or sticky patches.
Once you're confident the keyboard dust-free, apply a small amount of rubbing alcohol to a lint-free cloth and wipe it gently over the keys in small sections. If you're feeling really thorough, you can remove each individual key (if your keyboard allows it) for a good wipe and leave it to dry for a few minutes before reattaching.
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
waiopehu oldboy
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Lawsuit against Carnival Cruises re: Ruby Princess alleges there were infected people on the 24 Feb - 8 March cruise as well as the 8 - 19 March one & NSW Police are asking passengers from the earlier cruise to also complete an online survey that includes questions related to health practices and any other information gleaned while on board.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/austr...s-running-rampant-on-ruby-princess-court-told
I'm a little surprised NSW Health aren't being sued as well for negligence in letting the passengers off the second cruise without adequate screening & quarantine.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/austr...s-running-rampant-on-ruby-princess-court-told
I'm a little surprised NSW Health aren't being sued as well for negligence in letting the passengers off the second cruise without adequate screening & quarantine.