Rebels v Highlanders Rd 20
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Dave Beat
Paul McLean (56)
Come on, with Jordy, with out Jordy. Yeah there was a big gap between Jones and next but I would have given Jordy 2 or 1 in MOM.
Dave Beat
Paul McLean (56)
Cadreyn and Pyle both had strong games, why not Jones at 6 and all three?
Manly cant wait to have Cadrey, Jones, and Jordy running around, and Pyle is also from the Peninsular as well.
James Buchanan
Trevor Allan (34)
Of course, the Highlanders didn't score a try all second half.
There is of course a combination of factors. The Rebels stopped turning over possession, the forwards started making metres, Aaron Smith went off.
Simply put though, the Rebels won on the back of a dominant forwards performance in the second half. They managed to score tries with and without JOC (James O'Connor). In fact, when JOC (James O'Connor) came on, he did a LOT of stupid things. He tried going himself a couple of times when he should have passed and put the Rebels in bad positions. He made an atrocious kick from hand.
All the nonsense that is going on about how fantastic he was is just another occurrence of how people see the spectacular performance of backs and think that's what has won the game, whilst ignoring the hard work the forwards did to make it all possible.
James Buchanan
Trevor Allan (34)
Jordy came on much earlier so doesn't look as special.
Without Jordy 7-17
With Jordy 31-20
That's probably because Saffy has been playing very well recently. Given that his contractual situation is up in the air currently, there's probably every chance we'll see a Pyle, Neville, Jones, Faing'aa/Reid, Higginbotham back 5 next year.
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John Hipwell (52)
Talked to Jordy after the game, he is heading straight back up to play with you guys.
Will be interesting to see if Neville and Jones are playing though. Think Link will have a squad of 30-35 players training for the Wallabies and both Neville and Pyle should be in that training group. Jones would be my dark horse for that squad as his impact all season and the fact he covers so many positions.
If Jones stated 6 there would have been no cover for the 2nd row on the bench. With Pyle been injured and not pulling up well after the game against the Lions I think Hill was making sure he had all positions covered.
Athilnaur
Arch Winning (36)
Even a few days later thinking of this game puts a big smile on my face. Not sure why we're disputing who made the difference in the game, the biggest feature of the second half was how well the Rebels were playing as a team. It should be patently obvious that O'Connor had the excellent game, and it was an excellent game I think it is very one eyed to begrudge him that, but he could only have it off the excellent work done by others as the whole team ignited.
Conversely we should be honest and admit while the second half was exciting the team can not, will not, make it to the finals let alone win those finals playing such inconsistent rugby.
Nor am I sold on cutting O'Connor loose without a strong replacement playmaker coming in at 10/12. Had Foley been coming you'd wear it, but he isn't.
Conversely we should be honest and admit while the second half was exciting the team can not, will not, make it to the finals let alone win those finals playing such inconsistent rugby.
Nor am I sold on cutting O'Connor loose without a strong replacement playmaker coming in at 10/12. Had Foley been coming you'd wear it, but he isn't.
Dave Beat
Paul McLean (56)
A playmaker like we had in the third test?
Dave Beat
Paul McLean (56)
Ah so it is the pack that lays the foundations, the pack didn't stand up in the Third Test - one close rand try. V's the Rebels against the Highlanders in the 2nd half - the go forward and the multiple phases from the forwards allowed (or set) up the tries. Shit the forwards can make the backs look good.
I never said JOC (James O'Connor) is not an incredible talent, I don't think 10 is his best position, at 23 he is still learning and I think the change in coach will do wonders for him on and off the park.
James Buchanan
Trevor Allan (34)
Having now seen the replay, I will admit that JOC (James O'Connor)'s game was better than I was giving him credit for. I still maintain that it was the forwards that won the game and I noted that Sharpey agreed with me during the broadcast.
All the creativity and exploitation of space in the world means nothing if your forwards are unable to secure ball. There can be no space if you only attack laterally through the backs. The mantra of go forward first before going wide is true today as it ever has been.
One thing I did pick up on in the replay is that JOC (James O'Connor) is horribly lucky that the team scored that final try. Whilst Pyle was pinged for the penalty that Parker put over, it was just as much JOC (James O'Connor)'s fault. He made zero effort to put his team onside after the kick.
All the creativity and exploitation of space in the world means nothing if your forwards are unable to secure ball. There can be no space if you only attack laterally through the backs. The mantra of go forward first before going wide is true today as it ever has been.
One thing I did pick up on in the replay is that JOC (James O'Connor) is horribly lucky that the team scored that final try. Whilst Pyle was pinged for the penalty that Parker put over, it was just as much JOC (James O'Connor)'s fault. He made zero effort to put his team onside after the kick.
Shiggins
Steve Williams (59)
This isn't about the force mate. It's about the rebels and their inability to control and discipline their players. We need JOC (James O'Connor) in Australian rugby so someone has to take him in and help him become a better man off the field. Hopefully the force will do it because the rebels just gave up on him very easily.
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daz
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No, Oz rugby doesn't need him. It would be nice to have him, but we don't need him. And he needs to know that.
I'm just guessing here, but where exactly did JOC (James O'Connor) get his individual attitude? It must have been allowed and cultivated in his younger days before he came to the Rebels. Where was that again?
I think the Rebels controlled him very well. They sacked him.
Shiggins
Steve Williams (59)
He wasn't doing that over here at all. I said it when he left. He wanted to go somewhere that had a better lifestyle for a young bloke. When he was here I didn't see him running a muck. He left when he was 19/20. He has been over in Melbourne for along time now and that's where he has picked up the shit attitude. It's pretty obvious.
I hope he does come back to perth because its a lot harder to end up causing trouble here. Unless he hooks up with some afl players.
gel
Ken Catchpole (46)
Northbridge is awesome - surely you can be a scallywag there too? And it is really close to rectangular park as well.
(btw the Mexican restaurant down there near the little park with the tv is REALLY good - I think it is Zapatas)
Tex
Greg Davis (50)
That's a pretty simplistic analysis. So if I understand you correctly, you're telling me his personality and ego developed in the three adult years he spent in Melbourne. Or have I misread you?
Whatever, he's not our problem anymore. Good luck to him and the Force. If you guys can get him playing as he did against the Highlanders then you'll do well.
Whatever, he's not our problem anymore. Good luck to him and the Force. If you guys can get him playing as he did against the Highlanders then you'll do well.
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