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Nicholas Shehadie (39)
I've also heard all around the place that hes an absolutely terrible trainer (could be a reason for his longevity).
Apparently he used to (don't know if he still does) flat out refuse to do things like beep tests. Would pull out at 6 or 7 as things started picking up.
He's probably a real leader on the field but you need your official leaders to be leading outside of that as well.
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After 10s I don't think there is any real change to the pecking order..
Talakai will be ahead of Tupou, at least for the first few matches. Tupou is certainly explosive and will become a cult hit with his tackles and running but needs to learn how to use it effectively.
Gunn just doesn't do enough to justify starting, I think the second best openside in the team is actually Andrew Ready.
Korcyzk looks to be in good shape and could be on the bench pending the fitness of Tui and court case of Higgers.
Backline will depend on the performance of Magnay and Perese in the Rebels trial.
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Talakai will be ahead of Tupou, at least for the first few matches. Tupou is certainly explosive and will become a cult hit with his tackles and running but needs to learn how to use it effectively.
Gunn just doesn't do enough to justify starting, I think the second best openside in the team is actually Andrew Ready.
Korcyzk looks to be in good shape and could be on the bench pending the fitness of Tui and court case of Higgers.
Backline will depend on the performance of Magnay and Perese in the Rebels trial.
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Peter Johnson (47)
Nabuli showed a bit more, somewhat expected given recent write ups, however the lack of real finishing speed in the Reds is of concern.
I believe I read Magnay is actually the fastest. Hunt, Sautia, Kuridrani, Perese etc are just not finishers. Really could have used one. Hopefully Maranta has speed to burn in that regard?
I believe I read Magnay is actually the fastest. Hunt, Sautia, Kuridrani, Perese etc are just not finishers. Really could have used one. Hopefully Maranta has speed to burn in that regard?
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Tupou suspended for 2 weeks over head butt.. means he misses Rd1 of Super Rugby
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Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Really? Source?
Thats so soft. What about Messam with the shoulder charge or swinging arm?
It was barely a headbutt. It was scarcely more than a smooch.
Messam was having a few words and Thor was all tied up. He was just returning the sentiment.
Between this and the new high tackle laws "rugbys going soft" (I can't believe I just said that. I must be getting old).
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Yeah it was barely a nudge and quite soft, but the ban would be for the intent, whether he connected or not isn't really the issue. Source is on twitter, multiple journos now reporting it.
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Charlie Fox (21)
Surprising, yet disappointing comment from you Reg. Played very well for a 20yo, the media builds him up, not the individual.
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Peter Johnson (47)
did you see how much airtime messam got when Tupou ran in? full credit to Messams strength and coordination to land on his feet and get back in there.
I don't think he played well. I think his option taking was very poor. He turned over a fair bit of ball and just got carried away a little. It was 10s, sure, and I expect he'll learn from it but it doesn't change the fact I don't think he was where we needed him to be at all.
His two yellow were for high tackles weren't they? Not sure if that can mean he was targeted.
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Ken Catchpole (46)
Maybe he was just a bit too keen and eager to impress and got carried away?
He gave Messam what for in the contact - and it was an outright shoulder charge at that. It was a brilliant sight to behold. The head butt was a numpty act and he deserves time off.
Hopefully he'll learn to temper his emotions a bit in the future.
He gave Messam what for in the contact - and it was an outright shoulder charge at that. It was a brilliant sight to behold. The head butt was a numpty act and he deserves time off.
Hopefully he'll learn to temper his emotions a bit in the future.
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I don't think he was been targeted, but he may be in the future if he makes himself easy picking like that.. he was certainly youthful and excited, just needs to learn a bit more composure in the coming season.
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reserve THP was always an area of concern, I'd say Kirwan Sanday would be next in line
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Peter Johnson (47)
Some interesting Higs news have trickled to my ears.
I'll leave it to official channels but a bit more detail on what actually occurred and what has been happening with training shows a good chance of a positive outcome sooner then later.
I'll leave it to official channels but a bit more detail on what actually occurred and what has been happening with training shows a good chance of a positive outcome sooner then later.
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
My thoughts on Thor - agree with the sanction (headbutts should be rightfully stamped out of the sport)
BUT Liam Messam you are a little bitch. Thor gave you a fair and square Tongan sidestep and you try and fight him? Harden the fuck up. Did Mike Catt go and try and fight Lomu after he got Tongan sidestepped? No. This shit happens in games and you have to put up with it, not go off because you got smashed by a guy younger than you and your ego copped a whack.
BUT Liam Messam you are a little bitch. Thor gave you a fair and square Tongan sidestep and you try and fight him? Harden the fuck up. Did Mike Catt go and try and fight Lomu after he got Tongan sidestepped? No. This shit happens in games and you have to put up with it, not go off because you got smashed by a guy younger than you and your ego copped a whack.
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