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Reds 2019

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by RugbyReg, Jul 14, 2018.

  1. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    Petaia got injured 15 minutes into the Reds second game of the season. Surely being overplayed wasn't an issue.

    I think the combination of Jordan Petaia and Jordan Uelese makes it pretty clear that being named Jordan increases your risk of injury substantially.
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  2. Rebels3 Dick Tooth (41)

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    Michael Jordan
    Jordan Speith

    I think we are onto something here. It’s actually not injury but greatness

    Perhaps change the following names

    Jordan Phipps,
    Jordan Hannigan,
    Etc.

    Surely would see a World Cup win.
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  3. Ignoto Alan Cameron (40)

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    Unfortunately the journals returning from some Google searches are behind paywalls. But from the news articles, injuries are higher for younger players for a couple of reasons; their ligaments etc lag behind the muscle growth so a rolled ankle for an Adult may have a great impact on a younger person. Then there's the fact the young guys want to impress so they play through injuries when they should rest.


    It's not so much a case of being overplayed, but not having a body that's had time to adapt to the higher intensity and for Petaia, he put a lot of bulk on over the off season. So he is/was still growing into his body.

    When you look at other 'contact' based sports in NFL and even to a lesser extent Football. The former has 19-22 year olds going to College to play other aged adults and Football (in Europe) has a similar U19-U23 program which focusses on the youth developing skills and physically before going to the Pro leagues.

    All I'm saying is, it should not have been unexpected that Petaia picked up a significant injury and that a coverage plan of a guy who's Hammy's are holding on by a single muscle strain wasn't a proper plan.
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  4. Bobby Sands Arch Winning (36)

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    Jordy is so much more complete than Samu. But I realise your perspective on this is the more popular, which often means it’s correct.

    But I would take Jordy every time.
  5. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    I think most people's position is that one has done a lot already (Kerevi) whereas the other (Petaia) has a huge amount of promise that he hasn't really had a chance to deliver on yet.

    If you're judging them on their career to date then Kerevi is a long way ahead.

    If you're judging them on potential then it's pretty easy to pick Petaia.
  6. Strewthcobber Paul McLean (56)

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  7. Bobby Sands Arch Winning (36)

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  8. Bobby Sands Arch Winning (36)

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    Yep, I agree for the most part.

    I guess what I saying is that even on exposed form, not nessessarily future ceiling, I would still take Jordy as he creates so much for those around - and is so good on both sides of the ball.

    He has the ability to connect both the inside and outside backs. Very valuable, and pretty rare in oz rugby.
  9. TSR Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    Can’t we just have both?
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  10. Strewthcobber Paul McLean (56)

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    So another losing season in the books. 5th in a row. 12th from the last 16.

    Always, there's always next year.
  11. liquor box Ken Catchpole (46)

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    How far from Wallaby selection is he?

    If Pocock and Hooper are picked at 8 and 7 respectively, do they add another 7 to the squad?
  12. liquor box Ken Catchpole (46)

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    I don't think a losing season is surprising.
  13. sunnyboys Bill Watson (15)

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    If the last two matches go on form, we will finish with 5 wins. Same amount as 2017 when Stiles was sacked.

    Reds coach selections will send the place broke
  14. gel Chilla Wilson (44)

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    . Geebus dude!!!! Could you keep it in the match thread for just a little while please?!?!?!
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  15. Beer Baron Cyril Towers (30)

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    To be fair - risky business going to the Reds thread after a Reds match if you don''t want to know the result.
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  16. gel Chilla Wilson (44)

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    no doubt. i was on this page last night before the match and just hit refresh on the ipad without thinking too much about it
  17. Strewthcobber Paul McLean (56)

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    sorry mate.
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  18. gel Chilla Wilson (44)

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    All good in the end I guess - saved me from some heartache by the looks of it.
  19. Bobby Sands Arch Winning (36)

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    Spare me.

    Stiles is a spud, he is now coach of a second-division team in Japan.

    Thorn is doing great things from a forwards point of view, we just need a bit more talent out back.

    Be more specific about your concerns/criticisms/issues..
  20. dru Paul McLean (56)

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    It is not talent that is missing. Out the back or otherwise.
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