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Reds 2020

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by RugbyReg, May 9, 2019.

  1. Scoey Tony Shaw (54)

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    Solid bench option?
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  2. Strewthcobber Paul McLean (56)

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    He asks Sam Greene and Jake McIntyre who their manager is and how to get a sweet gig somewhere overseas?
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  3. Finsbury Girl Bob Loudon (25)

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    I see Stewart as our long term 15, with Lucas battling it out with Hegarty next year.

    Stewart has a lovely deceptive stride reminiscent of Bernie, he can kick and tackle. I think he has shown real class and it would be criminal for Qld not to persevere with him at 15.
  4. Ignoto Dick Tooth (41)

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    I would hope RA would pull the Reds aside and say letting Stewart go is an extremely stupid decision. The QRU has invested time, energy and money into developing Stewart and he's now starting to show glimpses of what he's capable of. You want to throw that all away??

    It's the same for Mack Mason, the Tahs botched his development and Australian Rugby is worse off. Outside of Hegarty, the other starting 10s are in the twilight of their careers, you need guys like Stewart and Mason being ready to be slotted in at an International level.

    Throwing the baby out with the bathwater is not a solution we should be be considering.
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  5. Strewthcobber Paul McLean (56)

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    That's the reality of list management. If the Reds plans for Stewart is as a solid bench option (I have no idea what their plans are) he's going to be paid relatively little.

    Unless they can get themselves to the Wallabies pretty quickly they probably won't be able to keep Lucas, McGahan and Stewart over the medium term.

    So you make your choice
  6. Strewthcobber Paul McLean (56)

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    Just to emphasise the point. If you want to be a Wallaby play maker and you haven't made it by 23 (and Foley was Captain of the Sevens team and player of the year at age 21) you're probably not going to make it. Mason is 23 this year. Stewart will be 22 at the start of next season. Here's hoping he stays around and makes this list.



    Player Wallaby debut
    BT Foley 23
    MP Toomua 23
    KJ Beale 20
    JD O'Connor 18
    QS Cooper 20
    BS Barnes 21
    MJ Giteau 20
    EJ Flatley 20
    SJ Larkham 22
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  7. Rebels3 Dick Tooth (41)

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    I think Stewart could be in the Toomua mold tough tackling 12.
  8. Ignoto Dick Tooth (41)

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    Lucas and McGahan are in my eyes, behind Stewart in terms of overall development. McGahan has had what, 1 start and maybe 1 off the bench cameo this year? In any event, I think between Hegarty, Stewart, McGahan and Lucas, all four blokes will get plenty of game time over two (or three if you count 12) positions next year whether it be through injury or through rotation.

    In relation to your age cut off, Stewart was roped into the Wallaby's camp last year, so he is there, or thereabouts in terms of Wallaby selectors.
  9. RugbyReg Stirling Mortlock (74)

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    Stewart is in the 23 every week in my eyes (Depending on who else we sign). Lucas too. There may be some swapping about but he'll play plenty next year.
  10. Derpus Paul McLean (56)

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    O'Connor was a prodigy but never really a playmaker.
  11. Adam84 Arch Winning (36)

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    Yep that’s one of the best games I watched Stewart play was at 12, really suits his skill set, he ran nice hard lines
  12. Sully John Eales (66)

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    Have to agree. The best I've seen of Stewart is at 12. But his work at 15 has got a lot better lately.
  13. Getwithme Alex Ross (28)

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    this is like the dumbest logic. Just because our previous system has failed us doesn't mean that these guys are no good for Australia, particularly with a new system being put in place.
  14. dru Paul McLean (56)

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    Does his size suit 12 though?
  15. Strewthcobber Paul McLean (56)

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    Of course it'd be great if they stayed. But if they hit 23 and are up for another two year contract at Super rugby reserve rates they are going to leave for more money os. There always the next big thing coming through next year to take their place at the development pay rate

    Add in Wallaby match fees and RA topups and salaries get more competative. That's why I said I hope the likes of Stewart cracks the Wallabies next year
  16. Silverado Cyril Towers (30)

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    No, he grew up in Gunnedah in NSW country. He played u15s for NSW before getting a scholarship at a GPS school, then went straight to Japan
  17. Sully John Eales (66)

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    Oh. He's one of those east coast elitists. Although we've claimed 'Queenslanders' born further south than that. Especially around SOO time.
  18. dru Paul McLean (56)

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    No problem there. Clearly the bloke is a Qld-er.
  19. Bobby Sands Bob Davidson (42)

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    Lucas and Petaia will like two brand spanking recruits next season, and they will both be starters.

    I am a big fan of Stewart and think his best position will be 12, but if not 15. Plenty to offer.

    I am also a big fan of Hegarty and think he will be a good 10 to help work with Lucas who will eventually inherit that spot. Hegarty will offer great utility and experience for a few more seasons.

    Carter Gordon has also been pretty dominant in prems as an 18 year old 10. Bodes well.

    A few more experienced heads like Speight can only be a good thing.

    How we let go of both Ikitau and Noah, not to mention Pasitoa is literally bewildering.
  20. The Nomad Tom Lawton (22)

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    Don't know the story behind Ikitau and Noah , but Pasitoa was offered a Reds contract . Have heard it was basically the same terms that he accepted with the Brumbies. Got to remember he showed up here as a 16 year old from WA, not exactly a diehard Qlder and must like what he sees down in Canberra.
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