Salary cap shenanigans

[Dave Beat]

Salary cap should be bigger in NSW cos it costs more to live here. palu is living in the western suburbs for f sake. The ARU need to make a stand for good here.

WJ - lets not be silly, were does it end then. Rebs will ask for more because playes need to relocate for 6 months, Pony's will ask for more because they have players relocate for 6 months.

 

[Badger]

What's wrong with Palu living in the western suburbs?

 

[rugbyisfun]

Palu... The western suburbs?!??! I just spat latte all over new 42' I-Mac .... How could a waratah be expected to live out in the western suburbs ??! For shame

 

[Braveheart81]

Palu. The western suburbs?!??! I just spat latte all over new 42' I-Mac .. How could a waratah be expected to live out in the western suburbs ??! For shame

Well, he certainly won't be spitting latte all over his computer in the western suburbs.

He probably has to make do with Nescafe Blend 43.

 

[Badger]

Well, he certainly won't be spitting latte all over his computer in the western suburbs.

He probably has to make do with Nescafe Blend 43.

In all likelihood, wouldn't be using an iMac either.

 

[TOCC]

How are the fans being punished?

Im saying hypothetically if the ARU docks the Waratahs competition points or reduces the Tahs allowed salary cap for 2013 then its punishing the fans..

 

[TOCC]

Salary cap should be bigger in NSW cos it costs more to live here. palu is living in the western suburbs for f sake. The ARU need to make a stand for good here.

If anyone has a case to argue for a higher salary cap it will be the Force.... Not the Tahs

 

[p.Tah]

Im saying hypothetically if the ARU docks the Waratahs competition points or reduces the Tahs allowed salary cap for 2013 then its punishing the fans..

they should reward us by getting rid of the Tahs hierarchy and giving Waratahjesus his $40k car.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

So apart from exceptions for the Ponys, Rebels, Force, and Tahs, the Salary Cap is a good tool to keep those pesky Reds in their place.

 

[en_force_er]

Salary cap should be bigger in NSW cos it costs more to live here. palu is living in the western suburbs for f sake. The ARU need to make a stand for good here.

The salary cap rarely accounts for accommodation, at least in Melb it doesn't

 

[fatprop]

I disagree with the whole concept of a salary cap, especially when it only affects 5 of the 15 sides in the comp.

 

[BPC]

What sort of penalty can we realistically expect to see from the ARU towards NSWRU.

Its pretty shit that fans get punished for the failures at a management level..

I would think that only SANZAR could dock competition points or put some other restriction on the Tahs in next years competition. The ARU would have to get the NZRU and SARU on board to do so.

More likely, the ARU's punishment would be financial. Given NSWRU is (I recall) making a slight loss, this may be a pretty big stick. The ARU could end up taking over the NSWRU (again).

 

[Braveheart81]

How else do you do it when the ARU is fronting the money?

I am pretty sure the Australian sides have higher salaries than the Kiwi sides so on that basis, it shouldn't be a problem for us.

 

[Richo]

I disagree with the whole concept of a salary cap, especially when it only affects 5 of the 15 sides in the comp.

4. Cap doesn't apply to the Rebels.

 

[I like to watch]

Im saying hypothetically if the ARU docks the Waratahs competition points or reduces the Tahs allowed salary cap for 2013 then its punishing the fans..

They can't dock them points,SANZAR runs the comp and SANZAR has no cap.
It appears the ARU are going for a cleansing of the joint rather than a punishment, which is the best case scenario.

 

[TOCC]

4. Cap doesn't apply to the Rebels.

This is incorrect.. The Rebels do indeed play under a salary cap..
There are some discrepancies when it comes to the foreign marquee players however..

From my understanding, the way the marquee player system works, the wages are factored into the salary cap until a certain point($300'000), so if Gareth Delve is here on a $500'000 contract, $300'000 will be included in the salary cap, the rest is exempt.

 

[waratahjesus]

This is incorrect.. The Rebels do indeed play under a salary cap..
There are some discrepancies when it comes to the foreign marquee players however..

From my understanding, the way the marquee player system works, the wages are factored into the salary cap until a certain point($300'000), so if Gareth Delve is here on a $500'000 contract, $300'000 will be included in the salary cap, the rest is exempt.

That pretty much means they aren't working under the salary cap doesn't it?

Whoever is responsible for the cap routing is doing the same thing.

 

[Richo]

Thanks. Just looked into this after reading your post. Not sure if the numbers are still the same, but this is pretty interesting:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...rtley-beale-deal/story-e6frg7o6-1226039926885

 

[TOCC]

That pretty much means they aren't working under the salary cap doesn't it?

Whoever is responsible for the cap routing is doing the same thing.

No it doesn't, they have a salary cap which is different to the other organisations due to the higher number of foreign players, its still a salary cap nonetheless...

As for salary cap rorting, well you are clutching at staws to claim the Rebels are the same as the Tahs , Rebels operate within the rules, the Tahs allegedly haven't been.

 

[Richo]

It seems to me that the Rebels are doing precisely what the rules allow them to. They'd be cheating if they designated Beale as a foreign import on their books so that they only had to hold $147,000 (or whatever) against the cap. But they're not.