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School sporting scholarships/recruitment

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Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
A fair amount of expected tut tutting about the nasty schools that may have different financial arrangements with some lads who happen to be talented athletes, but I don't see the commensurate level of whinging about the AAGPS vs CAS score, or that 6 schools and a couple of guests from other schools manage to get 4 Association representative sides in the NSW All Schools trials.

Are Scholarships/Bursaries/Poaching/Cheating/Fee Relief/Irregularities considered OK if "we" (or our Oscar's rep team) win.

What hope does the talented kid from Morningside High have?

The simple reason is that the CAS old boys/rabid fathers, bar one school, are not obsessed with rugby.
But if the scholarship boys were eliminated from GPS the games might be a bit closer: however in terms of level playing fields, scholarships are not outlawed in the CAS - they just have the good taste not to let the tail wag the dog for the most part.
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
The simple reason is that the CAS old boys/rabid fathers, bar one school, are not obsessed with rugby.
But if the scholarship boys were eliminated from GPS the games might be a bit closer: however in terms of level playing fields, scholarships are not outlawed in the CAS - they just have the good taste not to let the tail wag the dog for the most part.

Possibly not in rugby, but in swimming, diving and water polo 2 or 3 of the CAS schools could teach Dr L a lesson.
 

Not in straight

Vay Wilson (31)
So sports scholarships are ok if they enable schools to beat Joeys?:confused:

BTW, I don't believe that Joeys are as pure as some of their supporters make out. Co-incidentally, many of their bursary recipients happen to be good at rugby.;)
Did I see an advertisement on the big Joeys scoreboard ( or it could have been in the match program) directing prospective parents/boys to enquire about Joeys bursary program??

Very well targeted at a very specific segment of the market I would have thought.
 

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Vay Wilson (31)
The simple reason is that the CAS old boys/rabid fathers, bar one school, are not obsessed with rugby.
But if the scholarship boys were eliminated from GPS the games might be a bit closer: however in terms of level playing fields, scholarships are not outlawed in the CAS - they just have the good taste not to let the tail wag the dog for the most part.
Quire bizarre really. The association that permits it is weaker and doesn't seem to bastardize the comp. (understand recent behaviour at Knox might be changing that).
 

CatchnPass

Vay Wilson (31)
Quire bizarre really. The association that permits it is weaker and doesn't seem to bastardize the comp. (understand recent behaviour at Knox might be changing that).
@NIS, do you have any specific information to share about the "recent behaviour at Knox" assuming you are referring to scholarships as distinct from hothousing behaviour?
 

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Vay Wilson (31)
@NIS, do you have any specific information to share about the "recent behaviour at Knox" assuming you are referring to scholarships as distinct from hothousing behaviour?

CNP, no I don't too much at all about any of the CAS schools. Just what chatter I happen across here. I seem to remember some posts referring to Knox and Matt Williams and world domination. But happy to be put straight on that one.

Hothousing?? please excuse my ignorance, I'm not familiar with that term.
Sounds like an alternative to the Hyperbaric chamber.
 

SonnyDillWilliams

Nev Cottrell (35)
Hothouse
Verb 1.
educate or teach (a child) to a high level at an earlier age than is usual.
"a school that had a reputation for hothousing its girls"

Sydney's premier Rugby hothouse= #?
 

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Vay Wilson (31)
NIS, I think SDW is on the right track - a school seeking to focus their rugby players on little else but rugby 9 mths a year with a view to the (CAS) world domination you refer to. I don't agree with it and think boys should play summer sport. But so long as its the home grown product, its a lot less offensive than parachuting in a crack 1st XV in time for next year's shield.
 

SonnyDillWilliams

Nev Cottrell (35)
Tinsley tennis .... Am I correct in saying that is a school wide sport comp, that used to be a great opportunity for various girls schools to compete ... But is now a 1 school race?
Ruined? Not sure ... Just recall hearing about some new specialist girls school

Not sure if any girls from this said school have kicked on?!
 

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Vay Wilson (31)
NIS, I think SDW is on the right track - a school seeking to focus their rugby players on little else but rugby 9 mths a year with a view to the (CAS) world domination you refer to. I don't agree with it and think boys should play summer sport. But so long as its the home grown product, its a lot less offensive than parachuting in a crack 1st XV in time for next year's shield.
I couldn't agree more. Well said, good post.
 

SonnyDillWilliams

Nev Cottrell (35)
That was meant to say tildesley tennis ... Spell check so annoying

My point ...complete dominance is not good

Look at trinity grammar and their swimming record in the cas ...

12 consecutive years!

Everyone else has given up ... Not good ... Embarrassing really.

Oh and they are building a new better pool
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
That was meant to say tildesley tennis . Spell check so annoying

My point .complete dominance is not good

Look at trinity grammar and their swimming record in the cas .

12 consecutive years!

Everyone else has given up . Not good . Embarrassing really.

Oh and they are building a new better pool
See post #5727.
From what I hear the pool could be used for the Olympic Games if Rio falls over.;)
PRIVATE school Trinity Grammar has been likened to a playground bully after it started work on a giant new aquatic centre and grandstand without consulting neighbours or the local council.
The Summer Hill school’s Centenary Aquatic Centre, which boasts a 50m olympic pool, stadium seating and gymnasium, was given the green light under a fast-tracked approval process that bypasses traditional planning regulations.
Ashfield Mayor Lucille McKenna said: “We are very unhappy that this is the route they have chosen to go down. It is very unfriendly to the community.”
The elite private school, which charges pupils up to $29,550 a year, already has a 25m pool. The new facility, understood to cost more than $13 million, will have underwater video and electronic touch timers.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...g-the-neighbours/story-fni0cx12-1226863693825
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
NIS, I think SDW is on the right track - a school seeking to focus their rugby players on little else but rugby 9 mths a year with a view to the (CAS) world domination you refer to. I don't agree with it and think boys should play summer sport. But so long as its the home grown product, its a lot less offensive than parachuting in a crack 1st XV in time for next year's shield.

Although the 'hot-housing' may have a more serious negative impact on the children concerned that scholarshipping, the impact of which is more indirect.

Refer post #5704 and article attached.
 

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
My gut feel only, based on Shore's respect for the tradition of GPS competition.
The forfeit option if safety was to be a primary concern (as Nick Farr-Jones suggested last year) has the greatest chance of occurring.

Are you saying there is not a dangerous size differential? I havent seen Shore so i wouldnt know. Seem to be a lot of injuries.
 

Sunny

Ted Fahey (11)
So can any Qld people tell me who the movers and shakers will be in the GPS in regards to recruiting for 2016?
 
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