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Wallabies 2019 Thread

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by Lindommer, Jun 12, 2018.

  1. John S Tom Lawton (22)

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    I think it's a bit of both too.

    Unfortunately, you just can't polish a turd
  2. barbarian Michael Lynagh (62)

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    I think that's a bit of a cop out.

    In previous seasons, there's certainly an argument we didn't have the cattle.

    But this year? i can't buy that excuse. Literally no injuries, depth in the pack, skill at set piece, it was all there. Maybe not 'win the World Cup' level of cattle, but certainly far better than what we achieved.
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  3. Finsbury Girl Jim Clark (26)

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    We had plenty of cattle. All sitting at home watching on the telly.
  4. Derpus Mark Ella (57)

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    Not quite. We had all the tools but proper halves and only 1 real winger.
  5. Adam84 Arch Winning (36)

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    I think the cattle was there, the coach just couldn’t get the best out of them.
    Blokes like Lealifano and Kuridrani who played really well during SR, turned into shadows of themselves come test rugby. Sure Foley didn’t have a great SR season, but he absolutely capitulated during the RWC, it was actually sad to watch.

    I think out of the squad, Latu was probably the only player who improved from SR, everyone else seemed to regress in confidence and skill.
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  6. KOB1987 Mark Ella (57)

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    add Koroibete to that list
  7. barbarian Michael Lynagh (62)

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    Halves was partly self-inflicted - playing six different combos in six straight tests. And really the winger issue didn't make a jot of difference to our fate overall.
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  8. Derpus Mark Ella (57)

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    Eh it's all a factor. None of the halves could pull out a half decent performance. Chopping and changing didn't help but besides White I don't think any of them were up to it.
  9. formerflanker Nicholas Shehadie (39)

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    Hodge was included for his skills in areas other than speed, yet v England the only kicking duties he was given were a few re-starts.
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  10. Adam84 Arch Winning (36)

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    And how many centre combinations did they play.

    Tight 5 was about the only thing which had consistency
  11. Jimmy_Crouch Dave Cowper (27)

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    Mate totally agree. The players need to wear some of the blame. None of them stood up to be selected. How long do you persevere when they are playing poorly? Exact same thing happened a couple of season ago with the locks. They were all given a chance and none of them stood up so he kept searching.
  12. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    There's a pretty strong argument that you need to have made that decision by the time you get to the RWC though.

    If White and Lilo were the preferred combination in the opening match (where we were playing very close to our best side) they should have started all the big games for the tournament.

    It's too late to be making form oriented decisions then particularly when the replacements aren't providing an absolutely compelling reason to make a change (which neither Genia nor Foley were). We just had to stick with them and hope it improved.
  13. Jimmy_Crouch Dave Cowper (27)

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    Agree however there was talk that Lealiifano was struggling to recover. Nard got a chance and had a mare. Toomua played well off the bench (but more like a 12) and probably got the start that Lealiifano or Nard would have had if they weren't injured (ill/not recovered/resting) or out of touch.
  14. The_Brown_Hornet Michael Lynagh (62)

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    Who were they? I can think of guys like Samu, but who else should have been there who weren't?
  15. Sully John Eales (66)

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    You had to do it didn't you!
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  16. Slim 293 Jason Little (69)

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    2018 was the year of the rotating locks...
  17. The_Brown_Hornet Michael Lynagh (62)

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    Sorry mate
  18. KOB1987 Mark Ella (57)

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  19. Rugrat Jimmy Flynn (14)

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    A sense of relief when the wallabies lost the quarter final as we all knew it was the end of Cheika. Now a few days later I am angry that Australian Rugby let it get to this. The Cheika Era has been an absolute debacle. I don’t think the press or public should just let him slide off either with the excuse that he was passionate. His attitude, unprofessional behaviour, non existent tactics, stubbornness and arrogance can’t be excused. All the board and key executives ( former and current) should hang their heads in Shame.
  20. fatprop David Wilson (68)

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    Interesting

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