Wallabies 2020

[rugboy]

Thanks UTG. I was hoping for a more comprehensive stats list - but appreciate the reply.

Regarding Ramm, there are a host of guys putting their hands up. Ramm is certainly one of them. It’s good to have some genuine competition for spots.

rugbypass.com has good depth of stats on each player. The biggest slight on Ramm is his 68% tackles won. Needs to improve the defence to take on the AB's.

https://www.rugbypass.com/super-rugby/teams/waratahs/players/james-ramm/statistics/

 

[Tomikin]

Ramm for me is a bolter and may come down to if they pick a Jack of all trades like say Hodge or a fullback wing like DHP (although injured) but I think his been very good in what Ive seen.

 

[Tahtrajic]

Ramm for me is a bolter and may come down to if they pick a Jack of all trades like say Hodge or a fullback wing like DHP (although injured) but I think his been very good in what Ive seen.

Yes the Problem for Ramm is that the trend is to pick a jack of all trades on the bench. I’m not sure if Ramm is first pick wing at this stage. So it’s difficult to get a chance of the bench for young wingers.

 

[Derpus]

Yes the Problem for Ramm is that the trend is to pick a jack of all trades on the bench. I’m not sure if Ramm is first pick wing at this stage. So it’s difficult to get a chance of the bench for young wingers.

Bench wingers almost never have an impact on the game, anyway. The only jersey i want a generalist in is 23.

 

[Tomikin]

Yes the Problem for Ramm is that the trend is to pick a jack of all trades on the bench. I’m not sure if Ramm is first pick wing at this stage. So it’s difficult to get a chance of the bench for young wingers.

I was talking squad selection more then team pick.. but yeah if its on the bench 23 spot Hodge could be the man.

 

[TSR]

The plus side for Ramm is that, unless they go with a fullback on the wing (and I don’t see the need personally) than it is almost certainly going to be a debutant. So form will certainly be important - but I think they’ll also be a bit more prepared to go with potential then they would in a position like 10 where I feel they’ll be more likely to go with an experienced stop gap and bring the rookie through progressively. I’ve been mighty impressed with both Wright & Daugunu, and Wright would probably be my pick at the moment but I wouldn’t be surprised if Ramm jumped the queue.

Adds a bit more spice the this weekends clash.

 

[eastman]

I wouldn't have a huge issue with Ramm in the 23 jersey. His skillset is rounded enough that he could fill in at fullback if needed, which Daugunu can't/ shouldn't and probably to an equal level to Hodge.

Hodge's main advantage is that he can potentially play in the centres (although you wouldn't want him to against the ABs) and this is probably redundant if you have O'Connor, To'omua and Petaia in the 23 anway.

 

[Derpus]

I wouldn't have a huge issue with Ramm in the 23 jersey. His skillset is rounded enough that he could fill in at fullback if needed, which Daugunu can't/ shouldn't and probably to an equal level to Hodge.

Hodge's main advantage is that he can potentially play in the centres (although you wouldn't want him to against the ABs) and this is probably redundant if you have O'Connor, To'omua and Petaia in the 23 anway.

His tackle % on the wing isn't great. I'd hate to see what it would be at 15 against the ABs having never even played there in Super Rugby.

 

[Dctarget]

Hodge's main advantage is his cannon for a right foot.

FTFY

 

[Joe Blow]

TK always looks crap for the first few weeks, but he always has turned up by test time

He does turn up but his top end is limited. Petaia in form is definitely an upgrade.

 

[Joe Blow]

Be surprised if Horton makes it (although not unhappy).

He might be a bit small. Good player though.

 

[Joe Blow]

Magnay has looked good this year. Could be a back up option to Jordy at 13?

 

[Derpus]

He might be a bit small. Good player though.

According to Wiki he is 97kg (though i reckon that's probably out of date). By way of comparison Finaga'a is 108, Latu is 110, Dane Coles 108, Malcom Marx 114.

So yeah - might need to eat a few more meat pies. He's very mobile though, and still seems to hit hard.

 

[Tahtrajic]

He might be a bit small. Good player though.

I don’t agree with Phil Kerns. But he will be a good prospect in a few years when he puts on a few Kgs of muscle.
on a lighter note even my daughter agrees he needs to pack on a few Kgs and She never agrees with me like a typical teenager

 

[KOB1987]

Yes the Problem for Ramm is that the trend is to pick a jack of all trades on the bench. I’m not sure if Ramm is first pick wing at this stage. So it’s difficult to get a chance of the bench for young wingers.

Not advocating either way, but just for the benefit of those not on the Twitterverse, check out this Ramm try assist at the U20s last year

https://t.co/r8WsmrhS0f

 

[Dctarget]

Not advocating either way, but just for the benefit of those not on the Twitterverse, check out this Ramm try assist at the U20s last year

https://t.co/r8WsmrhS0f

Should've bloody beat Les Frogs in the final.

 

[TSR]

On the plus side with Horton he seems to be clearly the best thrower.

Why is it that we still struggle to get a player in each position that ticks ALL the key requirements of their position.

 

[cyclopath]

His tackle % on the wing isn't great. I'd hate to see what it would be at 15 against the ABs having never even played there in Super Rugby.

What would be a good tackle success % for a winger? I have no idea how they (different wingers) compare. Given the circumstances in which they often defend, I'm guessing the average might be low compared to other positions. Not particularly spruiking for Ramm, by the way. Just curious.

 

[rugboy]

What would be a good tackle success % for a winger? I have no idea how they (different wingers) compare. Given the circumstances in which they often defend, I'm guessing the average might be low compared to other positions. Not particularly spruiking for Ramm, by the way. Just curious.

As a comparison of those suggested as possible Wallabies candidates according to rugbypass stats:

Tom Wright 83%
Filipo Daugunu 80%
Marika Korobiete 69%
James Ramm 68%

Further comparison

George Bridge 89%
Sevu Reece 81%
Ben Smith 81%
Reiko Ioane 79%

 

[Derpus]

TY - i was looking for stats but couldn't find any good ones. Where'd you get em? I saw Ramm's quoted by someone else here.

As to your point - yeah wingers get put in tough spots pretty regularly. I always found defending harder at fullback though. Not sure if that pans out at professional level.

Rugboy - you have any fullback stats to go with that?