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Wallabies 2020

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by A mutterer, Oct 19, 2019.

  1. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    Which are the halfbacks you have no concerns about?

    Two teams have non-eligible players as their second option (Maloula at the Reds and Lomani at the Rebels). Louwrens might not even be eligible.

    It's a very short list of available options and we will pick three of them.
  2. fatprop David Wilson (68)

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    McDermott is the obvious first choice,
    Powell does enough good, he does a lot of solid things without ever being spectacular (he is the "Hanigan" of available 9s)

    If White isn't picked, it is a real struggle to find a third that deserves a shot
  3. MarkJ Tom Lawton (22)

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    I sometimes wonder if Powell and Hanigan would cop less flak if they had proper haircuts
  4. fatprop David Wilson (68)

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    Possibly, it makes their meh moments more noticable
  5. Ignoto Chilla Wilson (44)

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    If they're looking at changing the eligibility requirements, I wonder where they would leave Ian Prior?
  6. RoffsChoice Jim Lenehan (48)

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    Petaia would probably be a good fullback, but we have a few good fullbacks (to the point where we squeze them onto the wing just to get them into the side). We have a paucity of 13s who can defend the channel well (which is more than half their job) and Petaia is one of the ones who seems to truly understand defending that channel.
  7. Slim 293 George Gregan (70)

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    Turning out for the Force against the Corona Invitational XV?
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  8. VassMan Ward Prentice (10)

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    Issak Fines was outplaying him at the Force last year and now he's Brumbies 3rd halfback.
  9. kiap Mark Ella (57)

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    <ahem> That's the Brumbies in 24 hours time, Slim.
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  10. Up the Guts Tony Shaw (54)

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    The 9 selection will depend on how Rennie has us playing. Last year all our plays were run off the 9. I'm not sure Powell is as suited to that style as McDermott is. Anyhow, I think it's pretty clear White will be our first choice 9 and it will be a play off for the bench spot from the Super guys.
  11. Brumby Runner Rod McCall (65)

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    True, he does that better than anyone. But in Banks' favour, he is more likely to spot where the defense is weakest and set up his winger for a good ground winning run. Which skill is best? Probably depends on the new Coach's game strategy.
  12. fatprop David Wilson (68)

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    Ahh the Kurtley Beale approach ..........

    In test rugby against real sides? there isn't the space, there is a discipline defensive line, so DHP

    Against lessor sides the same skill means a 50m run for DHP
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  13. Seb V Geoff Shaw (53)

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    No stats for poor kicks I see.

    But still puts things into perspective. There is nothing between them. Happy with either at fullback, as long as none are on the wing.
  14. Seb V Geoff Shaw (53)

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    Thats a good point.

    I'm actually starting to favour DHP now, he really does always beat the first defender.

    Either way, we'll have a solid player at fullback.
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  15. Rebels3 Chilla Wilson (44)

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    What game do people watch some times? Both DHP and Banks have been pretty good this year. They are two completely different players. One is super safe under the high ball, offers a genuine 2nd kicking option in the attacking line (note Banks doesn’t kick much at first or second receiver) and is better at beating the first man in counter attack. The other is a brilliant support player, is a better kicker in the back field and has the pace which causes opposition defenses to increase their spacing when in the 13 channel, he also offers little 1% like brilliant kick for touch.

    I don’t see why the conversation on Banks moving to the wing for the Wallabies has never really existed. He’s much more suited to wing than DHP is, yet DHP gets selected there. All very strange.

    Ultimately who gets selected might depend on the wing options or opposition. Back 3 like the back row is all about balance. If you’re playing an Ireland or South Africa with a heavy box kicking game, DHP would be your obvious choice. If you’re playing a team that plays heavy field territory like England or Wales then Banks would be the better option as he’s a better counter kicker in a kicking duel.
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  16. KOB1987 Mark Ella (57)

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    If they are putting a team together based on weekly performances, Dempsey would have been in last weeks team, Simmons and DHP would have made the cut at least once, Kurtley maybe not but he’s had a couple of reasonable games. Hodge definitely needs to spark up. But still, shows how blinkered you are.
  17. Slim 293 George Gregan (70)

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    Nope, this also describes Banks....

    DHP has always looked more comfortable on the wing than Banks.
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  18. Brumbieman Nicholas Shehadie (39)

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    Back on the coaching shenanigans - i'm just.baffled at the whole idea.

    Fischer is the tech coach behind the Brumbies forwards dominance since JW took over, and as an assistant is far more available to take up a specialist assistant (his preferred role) with the Wallabies for half of the year.

    McKeller is a young HC who's making some waves and getting the team to play attractive, winning rugby and is stable in the role.

    Why in the fuck would you take the HC, and not his assistant who does the role they would want McKeller to do?

    Why would that even pass the brainstorming butchers paper test? If getting McKeller some experience, he can still turn up during the test season and be a guest-coach!
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  19. cyclopath Phil Waugh (73)

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    I suspect you are missing quite a bit of the detail about the "behind the scenes" process of trying to get Fischer. He has not been "overlooked" and none of us are privy to all the detail as to why he did not sign. It certainly was not because they were not interested in him.
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  20. barbarian Nick Farr-Jones (63)

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    Yeah clearly Laurie has been approached, and discussions have taken place. No idea why he hasn't signed on the dotted line, but I don't think the obvious answer is 'RA incompetence'.

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