Wallaby 31 players for 2015 RWC

[cornetto]

Quick question...why can't someone other than Simmons be taught how to "run a line out".

I can't imagine it's rocket science. It's not like they are carrying around an enigma machine for the calls.

 

[Slim 293]

Quick question.why can't someone other than Simmons be taught how to "run a line out".

I can't imagine it's rocket science. It's not like they are carrying around an enigma machine for the calls.

I have put forward the question many times as to why Fardy isn't the backup caller?

Granted, it's not test rugby......... but he ran the Brumbies lineout this year and it was one of the best in Super Rugby.

Mumm does have previous test form in the role, but it's literally only one or two tests prior to this year..........

 

[Strewthcobber]

I have put forward the question many times as to why Fardy isn't the backup caller?

Granted, it's not test rugby... but he ran the Brumbies lineout this year and it was one of the best in Super Rugby.

Mumm does have previous test form in the role, but it's literally only one or two tests prior to this year....

Presumably because there is a pretty high likelihood that both Simmons and Fardy won't be on the field after 65mins. Needs to be a finisher.

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[Scoey]

Quick question.why can't someone other than Simmons be taught how to "run a line out".

I can't imagine it's rocket science. It's not like they are carrying around an enigma machine for the calls.

.....said every back ever.

There's more to it than remembering the calls. There are entire books dedicated to lineout strategy.

 

[qwerty51]

There was speculation he would be brought into the squad following the injury to lock Will Skelton (pectoral) in last weekend’s win over Uruguay, but Horwill knew it was unlikely he would get a call up in that situation – with Sam Carter being brought in from France instead.

“Before the tournament started Cheika had told me who I was covering for essentially and Will wasn’t one of those players, so I had a fair idea that wouldn’t be the case,” Horwill said.

 

[Mr Doug]

Irrespective of whether, or when Carter and Hanson get a run, we must all be thankful that, (as emotional and traumatic as their injuries are), neither Palu or Skelton are lying in a hospital bed with a tube in the nose, or in traction with no feeling in the lower body.

 

[Tomikin]

Irrespective of whether, or when Carter and Hanson get a run, we must all be thankful that, (as emotional and traumatic as their injuries are), neither Palu or Skelton are lying in a hospital bed with a tube in the nose, or in traction with no feeling in the lower body.

Mr Doug, your right, and tell Sammy boy to rip in

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[Lindommer]

Cheika's subtle plan to end up with three hookers really was masterful. It was imperative two complete, and discrete, teams be selected for the first two matches due to the four day turnaround. To select a mixed squad with various reserves/finishers to make up the 16-23 slots for both matches reeked of danger. So, 1-15 A and B it had to be. But, what about a rake injury come the pointy end of the competition? Easy. Select a forward in the B squad who's injury prone, doesn't even have to finish the Bs' match. Viola. Played them like a voilin: Palu goes down (how unexpected's that?) and Hanson gets a guernsey. And the cheer squad in the bleachers reckoned TGC's initial 31 man squad was crap.

Cue the grizzling commentators.

 

[Mr Doug]

Mr Doug, your right, and tell Sammy boy to rip in

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Tomikin, I have passed your message on to Dave Carter, to convey to Sam!

 

[Groucho]

...said every back ever.

There's more to it than remembering the calls. There are entire books dedicated to lineout strategy.

That doesn't mean that Simmons is the only one with the intellectual gifts to learn.

It seems to me (as a back) that having two or more strong callers in the Wallaby setup would be a major advantage, in the event that Albert Oppensimmons is ever injured.

That would require planning! Perhaps after Dr Simmons has retired from formulating the stochastical theory of thermo-lineoutis, we could get him onto devising a plan to train some up!

 

[kiap]

Perhaps after Dr Simmons has retired from formulating the stochastical theory of thermo-lineoutis, we could get him onto devising a plan to train some up!

Your insights are being wasted on mere rugby, Groucho.

I was reading a thing last week where some bloke named Robert Gordon was arguing that all recent innovation and "disruptive technologies" are merely cannibalising existing industries, stripping out jobs and lowering living standards.

Obviously not on this thread, but that's the sort of area where your two cents is needed!

 

[Scoey]

That doesn't mean that Simmons is the only one with the intellectual gifts to learn.

Absolutely. The point is it takes years to master lineout strategy. You need to learn the strategy and you need a ton of experience to understand how the strategies work.
I am certain that there are a bunch of guys that will be learning the trade. Fardy would be one for sure. He seems to be able to read them well.
But it's not something that they can 'learn' in the Wallaby set up. They will have been working on it for years in their various provinces .
It's also something that some players will have a general aptitude for and others won't. So no matter how much they 'learn' how to run a lineout, they may only be serviceable at best.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Having dispatched all 3 Minnow nations in our Pool, TGC (and most of the keyboard warriors on here) must be close to finalising their Matchday 23 for the knock out phase of the RWC 2015.

#BringBackBill

 

[wamberal]

Now that we seem to be well on the way to sorting out our scrum, we need to recruit Victor Matfield to do the same thing for our lineouts. The guy is one of the very best practitioners of all time.

 

[Viking]

Now that we seem to be well on the way to sorting out our scrum, we need to recruit Victor Matfield to do the same thing for our lineouts. The guy is one of the very best practitioners of all time.

To be fair our line-out worked pretty well today. I think tactically it is fine, we just lack a jumper. When we have that extra jumper we are always strong in the line-out. So we don't need a miracle coach in that department just players who can jump, although I guess Matfield couldn't hurt.

 

[Gnostic]

Now that we seem to be well on the way to sorting out our scrum, we need to recruit Victor Matfield to do the same thing for our lineouts. The guy is one of the very best practitioners of all time.

David Giffen, Eales, Justin Harrison et al - plenty of Australian ex-players who were world class lineout opperators if you want to look for a specialist lineout coach and Harrison is actually coaching in France I think.

However I'd still like to see a dedicated forwards coach, and in particular Laurie Fischer.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

So this thread should finally be quiet on
A) need for 3rd hooker
B) To'omua over gits
C) cooper over foley
D) inclusion of Douglas
E) merits of pooper

Probably still bit of noise over halves but agreement Genia best to start over Phipps
Well done cheika you have silenced those g&g critics of your selections

 

[Aussie D]

rn39, still the matter of no 3rd halfback chosen. fishing:

 

[Rugbynutter39]

rn39, still the matter of no 3rd halfback chosen. fishing:

Yes was thinking that but I am not a white fan and did not want the White Cheer squad to get that chestnut going

 

[Highlander35]

You can get away with no 3rd halfback though. Gits played some time there at Provincial level, Foley at Sevens, there's enough to get away with a 1 game injury to one of 2 players.

Issue with the 3rd hooker was that it just required 2 players of 7 to be injured, and you wouldn't be up to scratch.