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Waratahs vs Reds - Round 1 - 2012R01

Discussion in 'Rugby Matches' started by tigerland12, Feb 19, 2012.

  1. Swat Chilla Wilson (44)

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    I wasn't going to say I'm seeing a lot of inside balls. That would make me sound like cyclo. ;)
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  2. p.Tah John Thornett (49)

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    yep, that's it. I think it was 15 sec ad. It starts with the kick off (~ 12 secs) and mentions the 130 year rivalry.
  3. Scoey Tony Shaw (54)

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    What is your criteria for "getting on top"? I would think that there is a fair argument to suggest that given the amount of 5m scrums, territory, possession etc your lads had, especially in the second half, the fact that they couldn't convert to these stats to points to me suggests that the Reds forwards won that battle and got on top.
  4. qwerty51 Jason Little (69)

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    We did score, through Tom Carter but the referee didn't allow us 5 points.
  5. Scoey Tony Shaw (54)

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    A surer sign as any that your boys didn't actually score. I'm sure this was done to death last year but if that had happened at the other end of the pitch there is no way that Tahs fans would say that you could award that as a try - from memory you couldn't even tell if Carter got across the line!

    Either way its not a good argument that the forwards got on top. That effort took all your forwards and a few backs from memory!
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  6. Rob42 Ron Walden (29)

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    I've seen that the Balmain v Petersham curtain-raiser kicks off at 6pm. Is that right? This must mean a change to the previous policy that the ground had to be free for 60 or 90 min before a Super Rugby game. Is it a full game ? An 80 min game wouldn't be done by 7.40. But great to have a genuine curtain-raiser.
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  7. Hawko John Hipwell (52)

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    I was trying to avoid discussion of last year's refereeing of the second half as it can't change anything and probably better belongs in the mud-throwing match thread.

    Usually when a team's forwards get on top, the team goes on to record a win. Occasionally that doesn't happen, like in that game and for example in the SA v Oz RWC QF. It used to happen quite regularly when the Ellas played for Randwick, but that was a special case. When it happens there is usually some reason(s) why. I will deliberately not list them for last year's match because that will only take my post off track unnecessarily. These matches are the exception, not the rule.

    If the match Saturday goes the way it usually goes, then who wins the forward battle will decide who wins. And I reckon this time the two packs are very evenly matched. I think the tight five might just win it for the Tahs, but I say it without great conviction. I expect this game and the Blues-Crusaders game to be joint match-of-the-rounds and two teams out of four will get a great kick-off to the comp and the other two will be scrambling to catch up.
  8. RugbyFuture Lord Logo

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    anyone doing anything for this match? still unsure whether Im going or not.
  9. TOCC Guest

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    Predicting something and been able to react appropriately to something are two vastly different things..
  10. Ruggo Mark Ella (57)

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    I would be careful judging players on last years weaknesses. Heaven forbid that they might develop and improve.

    Tahs have a fresh start and the Reds have proven to be able to adapt how they play to minimise any weaknesses. Try and run through our pack if you wish but remember the Reds vs Stormers game last year.
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  11. suckerforred Chilla Wilson (44)

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    Yes I am going and I need to talk to you about a crying smilie.
  12. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    The Tahs have delayed naming their team until tomorrow to give Berrick Barnes more time to recover.

    Hopefully he pulls through and plays. We certainly need him.

    Apparently he is most troubled by his groin when goalkicking. It's a shame that there isn't anyone else in the team who could step in and take the kicking duties with Barnes playing 10.
  13. spectator Bob Davidson (42)

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    Given the injury toll to the Tah's backline I think the Reds can afford to be a little experimental with the backs, although trial form seems to suggest that most positions are set for the opener. Did someone say davies is still injured or is he available for this game?

    Love to see a 4/3 bench but 5 forwards will probably favoured against the Tahs.
  14. tigerland12 John Thornett (49)

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    My sources say Link has decided on a 5:2 split. Probably have Shatz and Gill as the backrow reserves and Lucas and Lance covering everywhere in the backs except wing (where Morahan can move to if needed).
  15. spectator Bob Davidson (42)

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    Would love to see Schatz start with Samo off the bench for impact.

    So forward bench might look like: Anae, Holmes, Van, Schatz and Gill?
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  16. suckerforred Chilla Wilson (44)

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    From all reports won't be back until round 2. And considering his run last year one would hope that they do not ruch him back.
  17. MrTimms Ken Catchpole (46)

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    Not a full team announcement yet, but Link has confirmed that Mike Harris will be no. 10

    Great stat bolded, though it was a miss against the Force, not the Brumbies.
  18. qwerty51 Jason Little (69)

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    If he doesn't kick I don't think anyone else is capable in the best backline. Beale and Turner were our next kicking options. It might mean McKibben has to start.
  19. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    It creates a difficult situation if Barnes is otherwise fit but doesn't want to kick.

    I don't think you could drop Pretorious and play McKibben if Barnes doesn't want to kick. I also don't think you drop Barnes and play Halangahu.

    You could drop BKH and play Foley on the wing (or play AAC on the wing and put Foley to fullback).

    Can Kingston kick at all?
  20. Scotty David Codey (61)

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    If Barnes' groin is dodgy enough to stop him kicking, then I doubt he will play at all.

    Having Harris over the injured Cooper should actually help the Reds due to his superior field and place kicking. If Harris had played game two last year the Reds wouldn't have been in as much trouble as they were (mostly due to Cooper's poor field kicking).

    If Barnes is out I think I'll start leaning towards a Reds victory.
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