Western Force 2015
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For those not familiar with him, Scott plays on the wing for the Tasman Makos.
I'm surprised he doesn't have any visa issues.
It may seem that way, but not every kiwi is a criminal.
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Ken Catchpole (46)
This was a Force decision, not an Australian rugby decision. I'd accept your point if we hadn't also signed a local winger (Brad Lacey). If there were so many outside backs running around, why did the Tahs bring in Taqele Naiyaravoro over from league?
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Tahs have a rich history or signing former league and kiwi backs... Tuqiri, Rogers, Cross, Sailor, Blacklock and Tahu.. Then you also have All Black Sosene Anesi and fellow kiwi Afa Pakalani.
I really hope the Force can recruit the honey badger again, he will be good for the Force and Wallabies.
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Ken Catchpole (46)
I'm not holding my breath but I absolutely agree. Cummins adds so much wherever he goes.
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Good for the Wallabies? You reckon he's better than Speight, JOC (James O'Connor), Horne, Tomane or AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)?
Not as if the Tahs needed to be brought into this but I've got nothing wrong with leaguies brought over if they're Australian. I never liked the signings of Pakalani (but he's now Aus qualified) or Anesi anyway. The problem with Mitchell Scott is he'll 90% likely go back to NZ once he's contract is done.
Not as if the Tahs needed to be brought into this but I've got nothing wrong with leaguies brought over if they're Australian. I never liked the signings of Pakalani (but he's now Aus qualified) or Anesi anyway. The problem with Mitchell Scott is he'll 90% likely go back to NZ once he's contract is done.
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
Agreed. Don't understand why we recruited a rookie Kiwi winger instead of someone from Australia.
I followed Tasman fervently this year and the year previous, and cannot recall any games where Mitchell Scott starred - that is to say he played regularly.
I can recall guys like James Lowe, Bryce Heem, Robbie Malneek, David Havili doing well in the back 3 but not Scott.
Established Kiwi guys I can understand, but not up-and-comers.
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Ken Catchpole (46)
Who are you talking about?
Only they do because you are hanging shit on one franchise with the implication that your franchise doesn't behave in much the same way. Or the others for that matter. Henry Speight was brought over from NZ. Was that such a bad idea? At least you are fair in similar past signings with the Tahs. On Taqele, he isn't Australian- he is Fijian. The only difference is that he is Australian eligible. By the way, good job at pulling numbers out of thin air. What is to say that Taqele won't go back to league? Plenty of others have. If he doesn't make the Wallabies in the next two years, and I am pretty sure he won't, I would bet an arm and a leg he either returns to league or goes to France/UK.
I believe a player can sign a contract saying they're not available for national duties though which would bump up their club contracts.
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Cummins would have been a starter on the EOYT..
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Peter Sullivan (51)
The issue with the cummins contract atm is that his club is happy for him to play for the wallabies but as yet won't sign of on the force deal. Needs to be worked out by the end of the month otherwise he won't be here next year.
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Trevor Allan (34)
I had thought the IRB "World Rugby" did not allow that and that it required underhanded arrangements. Just from memory it was an issue with French clubs releasing Fijians at the last RWC. It wasn't the club holding them back but that they were choosing to stay, "for money." the IRB was trying to figure out how to fix the issue, again from memory. Pretty sure you're not allowed to write a contract that prevents you from national selection within the Test window.
as Gaffa has just said, the club is not prohibiting him from playing for Oz. They are more than happy for him too.
The issue is the ARU's stance on not picking OS based players. So he needs to play Super Rugby to be eligible and that's where his Japanese club is drawing the line.
The issue is the ARU's stance on not picking OS based players. So he needs to play Super Rugby to be eligible and that's where his Japanese club is drawing the line.
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